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		<title>By: Word Choice Sceptic</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/09/today-give-platform-to-climate-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>Word Choice Sceptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Holocaust denier is someone who denies proven historical facts. A &quot;climate denier&quot; is someone who disagrees with the scientific consensus that you happen to support - as I do too, but it *is* only a consensus on theory. Can you not see how distasteful and potentially offensive it is to use the word &quot;denier&quot; in this context, as if climate change is a proven historical fact?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Holocaust denier is someone who denies proven historical facts. A &#8220;climate denier&#8221; is someone who disagrees with the scientific consensus that you happen to support &#8211; as I do too, but it *is* only a consensus on theory. Can you not see how distasteful and potentially offensive it is to use the word &#8220;denier&#8221; in this context, as if climate change is a proven historical fact?</p>
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		<title>By: sunny hundal</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/09/today-give-platform-to-climate-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-9151</link>
		<dc:creator>sunny hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;BBC Today programme gives airtime to climate-change denier Philip Stott http://bit.ly/e7tJx&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">BBC Today programme gives airtime to climate-change denier Philip Stott <a href="http://bit.ly/e7tJx" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/e7tJx</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Roger McCarthy</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/09/today-give-platform-to-climate-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The former Revolutionary Communist Tendency and its current fronts Spiked and the Institute of Ideas are to my mind somewhat more complex than &#039;corporate-sponsored entryism into the scientific and media mainstream&#039; - and actually represent the most advanced form of the late C20 trahison de clercs: the adoption by much of the left of neoliberal economics while retaining libertarian social attitudes and anti-imperialist international politics.

While for individuals like Christopher Hitchens this has led them into a more or less consistent embrace of neoconservatism, for a cult-like post-Trotskyist sect like the RCT it has produced an often interesting if toxic intellectual cocktail.   

Re the &#039;therapy culture&#039; strand of the RCT&#039;s thinking it is not anywhere near as original as it has been presented and IMO Furedi, Fitzpatrick et al add little fundamental to the insights published by Christopher Lasch and Philip Rieff nearly half a century ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The former Revolutionary Communist Tendency and its current fronts Spiked and the Institute of Ideas are to my mind somewhat more complex than &#8216;corporate-sponsored entryism into the scientific and media mainstream&#8217; &#8211; and actually represent the most advanced form of the late C20 trahison de clercs: the adoption by much of the left of neoliberal economics while retaining libertarian social attitudes and anti-imperialist international politics.</p>
<p>While for individuals like Christopher Hitchens this has led them into a more or less consistent embrace of neoconservatism, for a cult-like post-Trotskyist sect like the RCT it has produced an often interesting if toxic intellectual cocktail.   </p>
<p>Re the &#8216;therapy culture&#8217; strand of the RCT&#8217;s thinking it is not anywhere near as original as it has been presented and IMO Furedi, Fitzpatrick et al add little fundamental to the insights published by Christopher Lasch and Philip Rieff nearly half a century ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/09/today-give-platform-to-climate-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who has half a brain as to what &#039;Spiked&#039; stands for i.e. corporate-sponsored entryism into the scientific and media mainstream, should not be too startled by Philip Stott. The problem with most &#039;Spiked&#039; contributors is that they have alot of libertarian talent who often have a really advanced perspective on civil liberties. Take Frank Furedi, a sociology lecturer at my former university, his book, &#039;Therapy Culture&#039;, was a really engaging and intelligent read, and I agreed with the majority of what he said. However, because he has written books on a range of subjects he has been invited to many conference and panel events. It is then by using the networks &#039;Spiked&#039; intellectuals have previously created that they then get the opportunity to ramble on about the &#039;fear culture&#039; of climate change, as Frank Furedi calls it. 

Whenever watching the right, as I know some bloggers do, always keep one eye on &#039;Spiked.&#039; You never know if Brendan O&#039;Neill or Mick Hume is lurking under your bed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who has half a brain as to what &#8216;Spiked&#8217; stands for i.e. corporate-sponsored entryism into the scientific and media mainstream, should not be too startled by Philip Stott. The problem with most &#8216;Spiked&#8217; contributors is that they have alot of libertarian talent who often have a really advanced perspective on civil liberties. Take Frank Furedi, a sociology lecturer at my former university, his book, &#8216;Therapy Culture&#8217;, was a really engaging and intelligent read, and I agreed with the majority of what he said. However, because he has written books on a range of subjects he has been invited to many conference and panel events. It is then by using the networks &#8216;Spiked&#8217; intellectuals have previously created that they then get the opportunity to ramble on about the &#8216;fear culture&#8217; of climate change, as Frank Furedi calls it. </p>
<p>Whenever watching the right, as I know some bloggers do, always keep one eye on &#8216;Spiked.&#8217; You never know if Brendan O&#8217;Neill or Mick Hume is lurking under your bed.</p>
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		<title>By: Shamik Das</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/09/today-give-platform-to-climate-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-9152</link>
		<dc:creator>Shamik Das</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @leftfootfwd: Joss Garman asks why the BBC gave airtime this morning to climate denier Philip Stott  http://bit.ly/e7tJx&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @leftfootfwd: Joss Garman asks why the BBC gave airtime this morning to climate denier Philip Stott  <a href="http://bit.ly/e7tJx" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/e7tJx</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Casper ter Kuile</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/09/today-give-platform-to-climate-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>Casper ter Kuile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing more frustrating when the person who faces these untruths doesn&#039;t engage with the lies and spin from the deniers. Why are we so afraid of clashing sabers?! Surely they can prepare some smack-down soundbites which blow this ancient viewpoint out of the water?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing more frustrating when the person who faces these untruths doesn&#8217;t engage with the lies and spin from the deniers. Why are we so afraid of clashing sabers?! Surely they can prepare some smack-down soundbites which blow this ancient viewpoint out of the water?</p>
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		<title>By: Klem</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/09/today-give-platform-to-climate-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>Klem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;basically bullet-proof scientific consensus that the planet will continue to warm due to human activity&quot;

This has been the basis of the debate. Climate change is happening, that is the bullet proof consensus. Climate variability is part of life on earth. But humanities contribution to climate change, that is not bullet proof consensus. That’s why Vicky Pope can say that the earth will continue to warm, and predictions are quite robust. Well that’s not saying anything at all really, the earth has been warming at a relatively steady pace since around 13,000 years ago (Younger Dryas event). And with a fair amount of confidence it will continue to warm until the next cooling event (another Younger Dryas perhaps). Implying that humans have caused it over the past 150 years is a large leap of faith. The time period is too short, and thermometers were hardly reliable 150 years ago. A leap of faith too far for many people, including Stott.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;basically bullet-proof scientific consensus that the planet will continue to warm due to human activity&#8221;</p>
<p>This has been the basis of the debate. Climate change is happening, that is the bullet proof consensus. Climate variability is part of life on earth. But humanities contribution to climate change, that is not bullet proof consensus. That’s why Vicky Pope can say that the earth will continue to warm, and predictions are quite robust. Well that’s not saying anything at all really, the earth has been warming at a relatively steady pace since around 13,000 years ago (Younger Dryas event). And with a fair amount of confidence it will continue to warm until the next cooling event (another Younger Dryas perhaps). Implying that humans have caused it over the past 150 years is a large leap of faith. The time period is too short, and thermometers were hardly reliable 150 years ago. A leap of faith too far for many people, including Stott.</p>
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		<title>By: Greenpeace UK</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/09/today-give-platform-to-climate-denier/comment-page-1/#comment-9153</link>
		<dc:creator>Greenpeace UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;thanks for all the retweets. check out climate supremo joss garman over on left foot forward here: http://bit.ly/1SfNkH as your reward.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">thanks for all the retweets. check out climate supremo joss garman over on left foot forward here: <a href="http://bit.ly/1SfNkH" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1SfNkH</a> as your reward.</span></span></span></p>
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