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		<title>By: Anon E Mouse</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/storm-latest-largest-rainfall-ever-evidence-of-climatic-change-more-to-come-in-future/comment-page-1/#comment-2021</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon E Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shamik - I also agree with Brucie Banner that to effectively advocate cheating in sports, as you do on your website is wrong.

And read what I have just said carefully before you go off on one against me - you seem to be attacking me when I have done nothing other than have an opinion you disagree with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shamik &#8211; I also agree with Brucie Banner that to effectively advocate cheating in sports, as you do on your website is wrong.</p>
<p>And read what I have just said carefully before you go off on one against me &#8211; you seem to be attacking me when I have done nothing other than have an opinion you disagree with.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/storm-latest-largest-rainfall-ever-evidence-of-climatic-change-more-to-come-in-future/comment-page-1/#comment-6750</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @GreenRupertRead: http://bit.ly/07uev3w/ incl. today...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @GreenRupertRead: <a href="http://bit.ly/07uev3w/" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/07uev3w/</a> incl. today&#8230;</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Anon E Mouse</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/storm-latest-largest-rainfall-ever-evidence-of-climatic-change-more-to-come-in-future/comment-page-1/#comment-2017</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon E Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shamik - I don&#039;t oppose it. Why would I? Once again though you seem unable to answer the question.

Do you, Shamik Das, think that Gordon Brown does believe that man made CO2 emissions cause global warming? Simple question Shamik. Try YES or NO.

This is a good blog Shamik but in my opinion you keep making statements that are not true about people and then you won&#039;t back them up. None of the other moderators do this. Tell me where I got personal about anyone. I do not make comments about people unless they are accurate but you seem to think it is OK to do that. When has Will Straw ever done it?

To keep posting that people are &quot;deniers&quot; and &quot;extremists&quot; when we are in the majority is ridiculous but it is also not true.

You have no scientific evidence to back up this stuff you claim and neither does anyone else. You can keep making statements about people who don&#039;t share your views Shamik but if anyone on this planet had any evidence they would have produced it. They haven&#039;t but your reply will be about individuals and not the science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shamik &#8211; I don&#8217;t oppose it. Why would I? Once again though you seem unable to answer the question.</p>
<p>Do you, Shamik Das, think that Gordon Brown does believe that man made CO2 emissions cause global warming? Simple question Shamik. Try YES or NO.</p>
<p>This is a good blog Shamik but in my opinion you keep making statements that are not true about people and then you won&#8217;t back them up. None of the other moderators do this. Tell me where I got personal about anyone. I do not make comments about people unless they are accurate but you seem to think it is OK to do that. When has Will Straw ever done it?</p>
<p>To keep posting that people are &#8220;deniers&#8221; and &#8220;extremists&#8221; when we are in the majority is ridiculous but it is also not true.</p>
<p>You have no scientific evidence to back up this stuff you claim and neither does anyone else. You can keep making statements about people who don&#8217;t share your views Shamik but if anyone on this planet had any evidence they would have produced it. They haven&#8217;t but your reply will be about individuals and not the science.</p>
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		<title>By: Shamik Das</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/storm-latest-largest-rainfall-ever-evidence-of-climatic-change-more-to-come-in-future/comment-page-1/#comment-2015</link>
		<dc:creator>Shamik Das</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know the deniers are getting desperate when they start getting personal. Using your logic, Anon, might I ask why you are so opposed to a third runway if you don&#039;t believe there&#039;s any evidence of man-made climate change? In your opinion, it won&#039;t the blindest bit of difference, so why oppose it?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know the deniers are getting desperate when they start getting personal. Using your logic, Anon, might I ask why you are so opposed to a third runway if you don&#8217;t believe there&#8217;s any evidence of man-made climate change? In your opinion, it won&#8217;t the blindest bit of difference, so why oppose it?!</p>
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		<title>By: Rupert Read</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/storm-latest-largest-rainfall-ever-evidence-of-climatic-change-more-to-come-in-future/comment-page-1/#comment-6751</link>
		<dc:creator>Rupert Read</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/07uev3w/ incl. today...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content"><a href="http://bit.ly/07uev3w/" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/07uev3w/</a> incl. today&#8230;</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Anon E Mouse</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/storm-latest-largest-rainfall-ever-evidence-of-climatic-change-more-to-come-in-future/comment-page-1/#comment-2005</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon E Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Told you they were fiddling the data. 

Forget the emails. Anyone who writes computer programs in a high level language, such as C, puts in comments to remind themselves of what the code is dong and to allow future programmers to make changes to the code.

There are two files normally generated, a &quot;Source Code&quot; file (where the comments are) and the compiled file or &quot;Object&quot; (.obj) file or .asm file.

(I&#039;m a 1980&#039;s Z80 man so this may be dated but you get the point) 

The file, after compiling, has the comments and other stuff removed and it is basically (no pun there) the &quot;computer code&quot; for the machine to run on.

So the climate change programmer has left his comments here:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/22/cru-emails-may-be-open-to-interpretation-but-commented-code-by-the-programmer-tells-the-real-story/

Personally since they don&#039;t include the effects of the sun I can&#039;t take the data seriously but I&#039;m surprised that this terrific blog, being progressive as it claims, hasn&#039;t picked up on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Told you they were fiddling the data. </p>
<p>Forget the emails. Anyone who writes computer programs in a high level language, such as C, puts in comments to remind themselves of what the code is dong and to allow future programmers to make changes to the code.</p>
<p>There are two files normally generated, a &#8220;Source Code&#8221; file (where the comments are) and the compiled file or &#8220;Object&#8221; (.obj) file or .asm file.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m a 1980&#8242;s Z80 man so this may be dated but you get the point) </p>
<p>The file, after compiling, has the comments and other stuff removed and it is basically (no pun there) the &#8220;computer code&#8221; for the machine to run on.</p>
<p>So the climate change programmer has left his comments here:</p>
<p><a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/22/cru-emails-may-be-open-to-interpretation-but-commented-code-by-the-programmer-tells-the-real-story/" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/22/cru-emails-may-be-open-to-interpretation-but-commented-code-by-the-programmer-tells-the-real-story/</a></p>
<p>Personally since they don&#8217;t include the effects of the sun I can&#8217;t take the data seriously but I&#8217;m surprised that this terrific blog, being progressive as it claims, hasn&#8217;t picked up on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Brucey Banner</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/storm-latest-largest-rainfall-ever-evidence-of-climatic-change-more-to-come-in-future/comment-page-1/#comment-2004</link>
		<dc:creator>Brucey Banner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is from his website and tells you all you need to know on Shamik Das guys. &quot;I MEAN, I’ve heard of dreadlocks... Juuuuust kidding! M. Henry’s still a class act, one moment of unsportsmanship will never erase all the good he’s done. And in any case, who among us, who among us, could honestly say, honestly say, they wouldn’t have done the same?!&quot;

Guess what Sham. Anyone who is an honest sportsman would not say cheating is fair if you can get away with it or not. Cheating is wrong and you are SO New Labour Shamik Das it hurts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is from his website and tells you all you need to know on Shamik Das guys. &#8220;I MEAN, I’ve heard of dreadlocks&#8230; Juuuuust kidding! M. Henry’s still a class act, one moment of unsportsmanship will never erase all the good he’s done. And in any case, who among us, who among us, could honestly say, honestly say, they wouldn’t have done the same?!&#8221;</p>
<p>Guess what Sham. Anyone who is an honest sportsman would not say cheating is fair if you can get away with it or not. Cheating is wrong and you are SO New Labour Shamik Das it hurts.</p>
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		<title>By: Arnold B Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/storm-latest-largest-rainfall-ever-evidence-of-climatic-change-more-to-come-in-future/comment-page-1/#comment-2000</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnold B Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shamik Das - It is quite clear you are out of your depth here and Anon raises a good point.

Do you believe Gordon Brown actually believes this climate change stuff or not? If he does to then approve the runway at Heathrow and coal fired power stations is a criminal act. 

So which is it Shamik? He believes in global warming but doesn&#039;t care in any event? Charming man - he needs to be arrested...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shamik Das &#8211; It is quite clear you are out of your depth here and Anon raises a good point.</p>
<p>Do you believe Gordon Brown actually believes this climate change stuff or not? If he does to then approve the runway at Heathrow and coal fired power stations is a criminal act. </p>
<p>So which is it Shamik? He believes in global warming but doesn&#8217;t care in any event? Charming man &#8211; he needs to be arrested&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anon E Mouse</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/storm-latest-largest-rainfall-ever-evidence-of-climatic-change-more-to-come-in-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1987</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon E Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shamik - Since your views are the minority opinion on this matter and as the majority don&#039;t believe in (man made) CO2 causing global warming...

...the only extremist that has been flushed out is yourself.

Or are you defying logic and now claiming that majority opinion is extream?

But you seem to have missed my point. 

If Gordon Brown knew in 2007 that (man made) CO2 caused an increase in the planets temperature which resulted in the disaster in Cumbria then why did he go ahead with Runway 3 at Heathrow and coal-fired power stations?

I think Brown knows this is a load of unproven drivel, especially since the planet is getting colder but goes along with it for the taxes and public opinion. 

I don&#039;t like the man (look I&#039;m in the majority again Shamik) but you are effectively asking me to believe that the Prime Minister of Great Britain has knowingly allowed a massive contribution to Global Warming. I do not believe he&#039;s that bad Shamik - logic says you must do but I don&#039;t.

Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shamik &#8211; Since your views are the minority opinion on this matter and as the majority don&#8217;t believe in (man made) CO2 causing global warming&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;the only extremist that has been flushed out is yourself.</p>
<p>Or are you defying logic and now claiming that majority opinion is extream?</p>
<p>But you seem to have missed my point. </p>
<p>If Gordon Brown knew in 2007 that (man made) CO2 caused an increase in the planets temperature which resulted in the disaster in Cumbria then why did he go ahead with Runway 3 at Heathrow and coal-fired power stations?</p>
<p>I think Brown knows this is a load of unproven drivel, especially since the planet is getting colder but goes along with it for the taxes and public opinion. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the man (look I&#8217;m in the majority again Shamik) but you are effectively asking me to believe that the Prime Minister of Great Britain has knowingly allowed a massive contribution to Global Warming. I do not believe he&#8217;s that bad Shamik &#8211; logic says you must do but I don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddy Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/storm-latest-largest-rainfall-ever-evidence-of-climatic-change-more-to-come-in-future/comment-page-1/#comment-6752</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddy Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @leftfootfwd: Storm latest • Largest rainfall ever • Evidence of climatic change • More to come in future: http://is.gd/51TqM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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