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		<title>By: Happy Christmas! &#124; Left Foot Forward</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/why-melanie-phillips-is-nutts-on-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-3503</link>
		<dc:creator>Happy Christmas! &#124; Left Foot Forward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] November 2nd: Why Melanie Phillips is Nutts on drugs [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Look Left – The Week in Fast Forward &#124; Left Foot Forward</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/why-melanie-phillips-is-nutts-on-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-2157</link>
		<dc:creator>Look Left – The Week in Fast Forward &#124; Left Foot Forward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It is ideological zealotry. It is totalitarian in its attitude.” A bit like Melanie in her recent rant against Professor Nutt then; indeed, a perfect description of how the Mail views the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It is ideological zealotry. It is totalitarian in its attitude.” A bit like Melanie in her recent rant against Professor Nutt then; indeed, a perfect description of how the Mail views the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mail Man</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/why-melanie-phillips-is-nutts-on-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-1623</link>
		<dc:creator>Mail Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s just tell it like it is.

Melanie Philips is a professional scribbling right-wing wind-up merchant, she is rarely, if ever, qualified in the areas and topics she spouts off about, at length.

Melanie Phillips, professional angry ar$ehole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s just tell it like it is.</p>
<p>Melanie Philips is a professional scribbling right-wing wind-up merchant, she is rarely, if ever, qualified in the areas and topics she spouts off about, at length.</p>
<p>Melanie Phillips, professional angry ar$ehole.</p>
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		<title>By: Look Left &#8211; The Week in Fast Forward &#124; Left Foot Forward</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/why-melanie-phillips-is-nutts-on-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-1390</link>
		<dc:creator>Look Left &#8211; The Week in Fast Forward &#124; Left Foot Forward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was Daily Mail professional angry woman Melanie Phillips, whose arguments were systematically taken apart by Left Foot Forward on Monday. We can but speculate what she was on when writing her [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was Daily Mail professional angry woman Melanie Phillips, whose arguments were systematically taken apart by Left Foot Forward on Monday. We can but speculate what she was on when writing her [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Salim Fadhley</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/why-melanie-phillips-is-nutts-on-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-8035</link>
		<dc:creator>Salim Fadhley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @Jon2aylor: Rebuttal of Melanie Phillips on Nutt and drug use http://bit.ly/BVQOr&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @Jon2aylor: Rebuttal of Melanie Phillips on Nutt and drug use <a href="http://bit.ly/BVQOr" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/BVQOr</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/why-melanie-phillips-is-nutts-on-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-8036</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Rebuttal of Melanie Phillips on Nutt and drug use http://bit.ly/BVQOr&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Rebuttal of Melanie Phillips on Nutt and drug use <a href="http://bit.ly/BVQOr" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/BVQOr</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Rae</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/why-melanie-phillips-is-nutts-on-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-8037</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Rae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Melanie Philips is not a scientist, doesn&#039;t understand how science works http://is.gd/4N87u&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Melanie Philips is not a scientist, doesn&#39;t understand how science works <a href="http://is.gd/4N87u" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/4N87u</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Joss Cope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joss Cope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Classic Mel - as is generally the case with her ludicrous logic, it ends up providing support for the case she opposes, which in this case is (of course) the sane and obvious course of action to take! Keep it up please, Ms P - long may you continue to embarrass yourself in public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classic Mel &#8211; as is generally the case with her ludicrous logic, it ends up providing support for the case she opposes, which in this case is (of course) the sane and obvious course of action to take! Keep it up please, Ms P &#8211; long may you continue to embarrass yourself in public.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what the ACMD had to say on cannabis and schizophrenia  in 2002:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The other main concern about the chronic use of cannabis is whether it can
lead to mental illness (especially schizophrenia). Although debated for well
over a century, no clear causal link has been demonstrated. The onset of
schizophrenia often occurs in the late teens, when cannabis use is most
common, so that an association is inevitable. This does not, though,
necessarily mean that the relationship to cannabis is causal. To make the
interpretation of such findings more difficult, many of these individuals
have used other drugs such as amphetamines that may also precipitate
schizophrenia. Moreover, as discussed in paragraph 4.3.7, cannabis
intoxication can itself lead to psychotic symptoms that may be mistaken
for schizophrenia.
4.4.7 On the other hand cannabis use can unquestionably worsen schizophrenia
(and other mental illnesses) and lead to relapse in some patients. Its use
should therefore be particularly discouraged in all people with mental health
problems. We do not know why those with schizophrenia use cannabis when
it can make their condition worse. It may be cultural or related to peer
pressure; but it is also possible that cannabis helps deal with some aspects
of the illness, or possibly ameliorates some of the adverse consequences
of their medication.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So there are a number of reason a causal relationship is hard to establish.

http://drugs.homeoffice.gov.uk/publication-search/acmd/cannabis-class-misuse-drugs-act?view=Binary

On comparing alcohol with cannabis, I think Mark is right. The fact is that alcohol is legal, and there is no legal limit to consumption of alcohol (so long as no one is driving). So one pint may well be less harmful than one ecstasy tablet, but the point is that people can freely drink 8 pints if they really want to.

It would be like saying that cars aren&#039;t dangerous to pedestrians because they can all travel under 30 mph if they want, when drivers are free to drive up to 70 mph depending on the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what the ACMD had to say on cannabis and schizophrenia  in 2002:</p>
<blockquote><p>The other main concern about the chronic use of cannabis is whether it can<br />
lead to mental illness (especially schizophrenia). Although debated for well<br />
over a century, no clear causal link has been demonstrated. The onset of<br />
schizophrenia often occurs in the late teens, when cannabis use is most<br />
common, so that an association is inevitable. This does not, though,<br />
necessarily mean that the relationship to cannabis is causal. To make the<br />
interpretation of such findings more difficult, many of these individuals<br />
have used other drugs such as amphetamines that may also precipitate<br />
schizophrenia. Moreover, as discussed in paragraph 4.3.7, cannabis<br />
intoxication can itself lead to psychotic symptoms that may be mistaken<br />
for schizophrenia.<br />
4.4.7 On the other hand cannabis use can unquestionably worsen schizophrenia<br />
(and other mental illnesses) and lead to relapse in some patients. Its use<br />
should therefore be particularly discouraged in all people with mental health<br />
problems. We do not know why those with schizophrenia use cannabis when<br />
it can make their condition worse. It may be cultural or related to peer<br />
pressure; but it is also possible that cannabis helps deal with some aspects<br />
of the illness, or possibly ameliorates some of the adverse consequences<br />
of their medication.</p></blockquote>
<p>So there are a number of reason a causal relationship is hard to establish.</p>
<p><a href="http://drugs.homeoffice.gov.uk/publication-search/acmd/cannabis-class-misuse-drugs-act?view=Binary" rel="nofollow">http://drugs.homeoffice.gov.uk/publication-search/acmd/cannabis-class-misuse-drugs-act?view=Binary</a></p>
<p>On comparing alcohol with cannabis, I think Mark is right. The fact is that alcohol is legal, and there is no legal limit to consumption of alcohol (so long as no one is driving). So one pint may well be less harmful than one ecstasy tablet, but the point is that people can freely drink 8 pints if they really want to.</p>
<p>It would be like saying that cars aren&#8217;t dangerous to pedestrians because they can all travel under 30 mph if they want, when drivers are free to drive up to 70 mph depending on the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Rolles</title>
		<link>http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/11/why-melanie-phillips-is-nutts-on-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-1313</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Rolles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, and for the record, I work for Transform, part of the trillion-dollar big Pharma to legalise drugs (apparently). a trillion? seriously - a thousand billion? I should ask for a pay rise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, and for the record, I work for Transform, part of the trillion-dollar big Pharma to legalise drugs (apparently). a trillion? seriously &#8211; a thousand billion? I should ask for a pay rise.</p>
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