It’s just that we don’t contribute 0.,7% through government….

Still want to describe Browns handling of the economy as masterful?

Running a small business myself I understand more than most the mess we’re in.

Still waiting to hear you justify Gurkha’s, 10p tax and the like – just want to see if you think those actions aren’t “nasty” ; – )

Labour is doooooomed…

The Tories were over a decade ago – old story.

Labour do not help the weak and needy – 10p tax removal – nasty.
Labour try to take compensation from our injured soldiers – nasty.
Labour remove the funding to properly equip our soldiers – nasty.
Labour arrest 86 year old Walter Wolfgang under the Terrorism Act – nasty.

I could go on and list dozens of similar “nasty” actions by this party even without mentioning the gap between the rich and poor increasing or telling lies about overseas wars.

I have no particular obsession with that useless bully Gordon Brown or the way he treats people in his own party (Peter Watt, Tony Blair, David Miliband etc) I just think that if more people like me were listened to and less unacceptable behaviour was accepted we could put a case to the British people for re-election.

By ignoring (so far you haven’t even given your opinion on any of my points eg Camerons son Ivan, 10p tax, Gurkha’s)the way Brown and his cohorts behave, what you are doing Liz is telling the party leadership that it is OK to continue like that.

Well it isn’t OK Liz and should have been stopped by having a general election after Brown forced Blair out. His behaviour was underhand and despicable then and Labour will pay for it at the polls.

The more you ignore the truth and Labour’s actions speak louder than words, the more Labour will deserve the whacking the election will deliver… Brown can’t dither and hide forever…

Re The Met – you make them sound as if they have been on a major rampage. It was tragic that their actions re the G20 summit resulted in a death but I do think he police are much more accountable these days and that there is more transparency but that does not condone or excuse the loss of a life.

I admit that not all Tories are nasty – the patrician-style ones such as Ken Clarke etc are decent, humane people, but there is still a very strong Thatcherite vein running through their blood and all this cuddly- ‘let’s hug a hoodie’ stuff is a complete veneer and I think what really informs and drives the party. Take a look at what Toby Young wrote about him in his blog yesterday:
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I agree that Labour/New Labour is /was not perfect but they did more to help the many rather than the few and that STILL is the raison d’etre and why I would say the vast majority of people join the party and actively campaign for it on a regular basis.

There is still room to debate policies such as ID cards – it’s still not a given (and by the way, something that I am not a fan of for various reasons – cost as well as civil liberty aspect).

I still think and am worried by your(potentially dangerous) obsession with Gordon – I really don’t think it’s healthy for you!

In the last few days, polls together with the fact that Chris Grayling doesn’t understand statistics, has shown that the election is still there to be won and the more that people such as Osborne, Grayling et al are tested they fall at the first hurdle.

I think if you asked people who benefitted from the minimum wage etc and people who didn’t lose their homes or jobs in the last 12-18 months, they would be very positive towards GB and his masterful handling of the economy in what has been a very turbulent and uncertain period.