Cameron fails to say he’s for “gay or straight”

RT @leftfootfwd: Cam fails to say he's for "gay or straight". Unforgivable given concern over Graylings remarks on B&Bs http://bit.ly/b5QOVh

Cameron omits reference to gay community from speech http://is.gd/bgXm4 (via @leftfootfwd)

RT @WillHeaven: Sharp spot. RT @leftfootfwd Cameron fails to say he's for "gay or straight"… http://bit.ly/b5QOVh

Cam fails to say he's for "gay or straight". Unforgivable given concern over Graylings remarks on B&Bs http://bit.ly/b5QOVh

RT @CathElliott: RT @psbook: Cameron omits reference to gay community from speech http://is.gd/bgXm4 (via @leftfootfwd)

Sharp spot. RT @leftfootfwd Cameron fails to say he's for "gay or straight"… http://bit.ly/b5QOVh

RT @WillHeaven: Sharp spot. RT @leftfootfwd Cameron fails to say he's for "gay or straight"… http://bit.ly/b5QOVh

Cameron's speech for the cameras leaves out "gay or straight" http://j.mp/dwWjvg

Ironic memory lapse? RT @WillHeaven Sharp spot. RT @leftfootfwd Cameron fails to say he's for "gay or straight" http://bit.ly/b5QOVh

Slip of the mind or change of mind? RT @leftfootfwd Cameron fails to say he's for "gay or straight". http://bit.ly/b5QOVh #ukelection

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RT @psbook Cameron omits reference to gay community from speech http://is.gd/bgXm4 (via @leftfootfwd)

Outstanding spot from Sunder Katwala on this one.

RT @psbook: Cameron omits reference to gay community from speech http://is.gd/bgXm4 (via @leftfootfwd)

RT @psbook: Cameron omits reference to gay community from speech http://is.gd/bgXm4 (via @leftfootfwd)

This argument is in large part about whether or not a bed & breakfast is a business in the same way as a hotel is. Evidently, Mr Grayling is not sure whether it is, hence his equivocation on the issue. In the same way as most would argue that the state cannot interfere in all aspects of life to stamp out bigotry – for example, by stepping in to prevent a father banning his gay son bringing a boyfriend home – Mr Grayling rightly or wrongly seems to think that a B&B should be treated as not just a business but also someone’s home.

For this he is being crucified and – surprise, surprise – LFF has enthusiastically joined this witchhunt.

I believe there are some B&Bs that describe themselves as gay B&Bs. I am not sure whether they are designed exclusively for gays or not, but I don’t see why they should not be if this is what they desire. I think Christian youth hostels should have the right to admit only Christians if that is what they desire. I think the black police association should be allowed to exist and bar whites. I find all of these things distasteful, but I think one has to tolerate them. The logic of the LFF worldview is that these things make me a bigot, which I think reflects badly on it.

Rory, a b&b is a business. It is illegal for a business in this country to discrimanate against someone on the grounds of religion, race or sexual orientation, and rightly so.

Grayling gave a green light to bigots, the question now is whether David Cameron fires him, as was the case with the Tory/UUP candidate for South Antrim Adrian Watson, who was de-selected for making similar remarks.

Whether Mr Cameron takes action or stays silent, as he’s done on Michal Kaminski’s anti-semitism, racism and homophobia, will prove once and for all just how much the Tories have (or haven’t) changed. The mask’s slipped.

RT @leftfootfwd: Cam fails to say he's for "gay or straight". Unforgivable given concern over Graylings remarks on B&Bs http://bit.ly/b5QOVh

RT @leftfootfwd: Cam fails to say he's for "gay or straight". Unforgivable given concern over Graylings remarks on B&Bs http://bit.ly/b5QOVh

RT @leftfootfwd: Cam fails to say he's for "gay or straight". Unforgivable given concern over Graylings remarks on B&Bs http://bit.ly/b5QOVh

RT @leftfootfwd: Cam fails to say he's for "gay or straight". Unforgivable given concern over Graylings remarks on B&Bs http://bit.ly/b5QOVh

So in that case do you think it is OK for some organisations that are not businesses to discriminate? Such as Christian youth hostels and the Black Police Association?

I am genuinely interested to know.

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RT @lares09: RT @tscholesfogg RT @psbook Cameron omits reference to gay community from speech http://is.gd/bgXm4 (via @leftfootfwd)

The Conservatives and their candidates, particularly in the key marginals like the area where I live need to answer a big question:

Do they back what Grayling said or do they not?

And Rory, no one is obliging a B and B owner to provide that service; they do so of their own accord. They choose to provide the service and must live by the obligations of doing so.

And I didn’t think the Black Police Association descriminated against non-black people.

RT @leftfootfwd: Cam fails to say he's for "gay or straight". Unforgivable given concern over Graylings remarks on B&Bs http://bit.ly/b5QOVh

RT @psbook: Cameron omits reference to gay community from speech http://is.gd/bgXm4 (via @leftfootfwd)

RT @ciphergoth: Cameron's speech for the cameras leaves out "gay or straight" http://j.mp/dwWjvg

RT @WillHeaven: Sharp spot. RT @leftfootfwd Cameron fails to say he's for "gay or straight"… http://bit.ly/b5QOVh

RT @ciphergoth Cameron's speech for the cameras leaves out "gay or straight" http://short.to/2147k

RT @ciphergoth Cameron's speech for the cameras leaves out "gay or straight" http://short.to/2147k

David Cameron fails to mention gay or straight – this despite briefing the line in advance… http://reduce.li/jkox2g #fails

RT @ciphergoth: Cameron's speech for the cameras leaves out "gay or straight" http://j.mp/dwWjvg

I think Grayling’s comments were none too clever towards the devoutly Christian, either, as I would imagine a very large proportion are not homophobic.

Being a Christian does not imply being homophobic, does it?

But the Pink News poll wasn’t a fair one – the news article preceding the poll contained two negative comments about the Conservatives (and no positive or negative comments about any other parties) and the poll questions themselves contained anti-Tory questions before asking for voting intention.

It’s not therefore surprising that the poll gave this result. But don’t expect it to be accurate.

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I don’t think I’ve ever read such a staggering load of self-opinionated hogwash over an issue so staggeringly unimportant compared with the real issues of this GE. Obviously, someone has frightened the horses-hence the loads of horse manure.

He failed to mention gay or straight, because neither are ignored.

Labour need to answer a big question, whats more important, the power of the state to impose its will via the law, or the right of the individual to conduct his or her business as sees fit. If Gays can have Gay only Bnb`s – why shouldn`t Christians have straight only Bnb ? Its your typical state powered fascist socialists at work again

Intresting aside on the thing about Black groups with white members. My Gran re-married a Jamaican immigrant. The caribeen society to which they belonged admited peoples of all races and creeds but had a rule that offical posts had to be staffed by people of carribeen heritage. The society wanted to make my gran Treasurer so they declared her an Honoury Jamaican.

Yes, that is an interesting aside, Rob. But unfortunately Mr Das does not seem to want to answer my questions.

David Cameron had a great speech but was shy when talking about people of colour. I expected him to talk about promoting race equality in the work place, ending the term “ethnic background” so that “Britishness” has the same meaning for everyone. This is the change modern Britain need Today.

The real change I would like to hear from any political party is race equality in this country. “Britishness” should have the same meaning for everyone. This is what we need in modern Britain today.

In his speech, David Cameron failed to address the race equality issue. This is the change we need.

Ignoring part of the “Great Ignored”. A bit of a false start for Dave.

Ahh, the Grayling story again. Always got to bring that up. His words were “if it’s a question of somebody who’s doing a B&B in their own home, that individual should have the right to decide who does and who doesn’t come into their own home”.

Are those such controversial vews to hold? Would we expect a Jewish B&B owener to be welcoming of, say, a group of Muslims or vice versa? Remember, we’re talking about coming into a person’s home, that happens to be a B&B, not a hotel. Now would LFF be so critical of Grayling if the B&B owner in question had been a Muslim refusing two gay men?

As for Cameron leaving out “gay or straight”, that’s clearly an error of memory. You’d have to be clinically insane, or perhaps Labour voter, to think otherwise.

Cameron ignores the “Great Ignored”
Memory loss for a potential premiere who is still in his early 40s? Perhaps dementia is setting in early for Cameron ; or maybe he is an opportunist hypocrite , and has decided to follow the , “dont do what I say , do what I do ” philosophy ,and just ignore the gay society , just to support Chris Grayling’s comments.
As for a Jewish B&B ignoring Muslim Customers ? Is the person who posted the suggestion not just a tide bit encouraging prejudice just to Support Cameron’s silence over his hand picked shadow cabinet minister Chris Grayling ?

regarding the people who offended the gay couple, they would allow them to sleep in their home and did not throw them out, if i threw gordon brown out of the pub i run would i be in the wrong

I’m a LAbour member and a committed Christian and I am so upset by the way the Labour Party seems to undermine many Christian values at every opportunity. TO repeal the Waddington Amendment which would then make it illegal for a youth worker to tell his youth group about God’s biblically given view of the right framework for sexual relationships.. ie marriage.. This isn’t Labour.. it’s control freakery masquerading as the one thing it isn’t.. Liberalism.

The outcry of horror and pressure from the gay lobby over a genuine concern over the rights of religious people v gay people.. you’d think Grayling had suggested slaughtering the firstborn or something!! PLease please please Labour party.. don’t make it impossible for me to support you. I love all people in Christ, allpeople.. but I have to be free to preach the gospel and live it.. In a choice between Labour and God, who d’ya think might win??

May i also reiterate Rory’s question about how you’dall feel if it were a muslim bnb that had not allowed a gay couple a double room? It does seem like there are double standards here, and for reasons I can’t fully understand.

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