Comments on: Electoral reformers should oppose the coalition’s gerrymandering http://www.leftfootforward.org/2010/07/electoral-reformers-should-oppose-the-coalitions-gerrymandering/ Left Foot Forward is a political blog for progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy developments. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 03:48:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Humphrey Cushion http://www.leftfootforward.org/2010/07/electoral-reformers-should-oppose-the-coalitions-gerrymandering/comment-page-2/#comment-55478 Humphrey Cushion Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:43:01 +0000 http://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=16903#comment-55478 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@barton_of_notts heres a good place to start : http://bit.ly/aXoap1</span></span> @barton_of_notts heres a good place to start : http://bit.ly/aXoap1

]]> By: mpg http://www.leftfootforward.org/2010/07/electoral-reformers-should-oppose-the-coalitions-gerrymandering/comment-page-2/#comment-46880 mpg Sat, 21 Aug 2010 06:38:59 +0000 http://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=16903#comment-46880 Totall agree with the posters analysis. I am reluctantly supporting the AV referendum, but feel that the boundary proposal, while I reasonable idea in principle, needs more work, the main adjustment being a change from registered voters to all possible voters in a locale. I hope the Liberal Democrats will encourage these changes. Totall agree with the posters analysis. I am reluctantly supporting the AV referendum, but feel that the boundary proposal, while I reasonable idea in principle, needs more work, the main adjustment being a change from registered voters to all possible voters in a locale. I hope the Liberal Democrats will encourage these changes.

]]> By: Marq Hugh http://www.leftfootforward.org/2010/07/electoral-reformers-should-oppose-the-coalitions-gerrymandering/comment-page-2/#comment-42599 Marq Hugh Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:14:25 +0000 http://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=16903#comment-42599 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@Thomoli Electoral reformers should oppose the coalition’s gerrymandering http://is.gd/e0tcc</span></span> @Thomoli Electoral reformers should oppose the coalition’s gerrymandering http://is.gd/e0tcc

]]> By: Guy Debord's Cat http://www.leftfootforward.org/2010/07/electoral-reformers-should-oppose-the-coalitions-gerrymandering/comment-page-2/#comment-42066 Guy Debord's Cat Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:28:09 +0000 http://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=16903#comment-42066 [...] Will Straw (Jack’s lad) notes the Electoral Commission’s investigation into under-registration earlier this year, “The highest concentrations of under-registration are most likely to be found in metropolitan areas, smaller towns and cities with large student populations, and coastal areas with significant population turnover and high levels of social deprivation.” [...] [...] Will Straw (Jack’s lad) notes the Electoral Commission’s investigation into under-registration earlier this year, “The highest concentrations of under-registration are most likely to be found in metropolitan areas, smaller towns and cities with large student populations, and coastal areas with significant population turnover and high levels of social deprivation.” [...]

]]> By: Andrew Ducker http://www.leftfootforward.org/2010/07/electoral-reformers-should-oppose-the-coalitions-gerrymandering/comment-page-2/#comment-41769 Andrew Ducker Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:51:00 +0000 http://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=16903#comment-41769 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">The problem with the redistricting proposals in the current bill http://bit.ly/dqx8Dn</span></span> The problem with the redistricting proposals in the current bill http://bit.ly/dqx8Dn

]]> By: Emily Needham http://www.leftfootforward.org/2010/07/electoral-reformers-should-oppose-the-coalitions-gerrymandering/comment-page-2/#comment-41765 Emily Needham Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:35:25 +0000 http://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=16903#comment-41765 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @leftfootfwd: Electoral reformers should oppose the coalition's gerrymandering http://goo.gl/9Br6</span></span> RT @leftfootfwd: Electoral reformers should oppose the coalition's gerrymandering http://goo.gl/9Br6

]]> By: Tom http://www.leftfootforward.org/2010/07/electoral-reformers-should-oppose-the-coalitions-gerrymandering/comment-page-2/#comment-41751 Tom Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:44:32 +0000 http://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=16903#comment-41751 What a rubbisha nd desperate article. A sad case of scrapping the barrel to support a pre-ordained conclusion. 1. People not on the register can't vote - they are not included by making some constituencies smaller. They still won't be voting ! In my lcoal council you get a minimum of three letters and 2 personal visists before they give up trying to register you. 2. What nonsense - the Lib Dems have plenty of seats in large rural areas where they will lose out on this reform. Including the rest of Scotland ! Wales, The Lake District, Devon, Somerset and Cornwall. Why not just accept that these 5 massive rural areas are a special case ? 3. Oh well, Labour are dead keen on correcting the distortions of the electoral system are they ? Well the biggets distortion is the difference between the number of people who vote Lib Dem and the number of MPs they get. 4. If fact your "evidence" points out that rather than being the "worst gerrymandering ever" the changes "are unlikely to have a substantial impact and remove the significant disadvantage currently suffered by the Conservative Party.” Let alone the Lib Dems ! 5. So ethnic minorities should be proportionately represeneted in Parliament, but Lib Dems should not? If you want women,. ethnic minorities and all other sections of society, then support Single Transferable Vote - if you aren't really arsed about it, join the Labour Party. 3. 2. What a rubbisha nd desperate article. A sad case of scrapping the barrel to support a pre-ordained conclusion.

1. People not on the register can’t vote – they are not included by making some constituencies smaller. They still won’t be voting ! In my lcoal council you
get a minimum of three letters and 2 personal visists before they give up trying to register you.

2. What nonsense – the Lib Dems have plenty of seats in large rural areas where they will lose out on this reform. Including the rest of Scotland ! Wales, The Lake District, Devon, Somerset and Cornwall. Why not just accept that these 5 massive rural areas are a special case ?

3. Oh well, Labour are dead keen on correcting the distortions of the electoral system are they ? Well the biggets distortion is the difference between the number of people who vote Lib Dem and the number of MPs they get.

4. If fact your “evidence” points out that rather than being the “worst gerrymandering ever” the changes “are unlikely to have a substantial impact and remove the significant disadvantage currently suffered by the Conservative Party.”
Let alone the Lib Dems !

5. So ethnic minorities should be proportionately represeneted in Parliament, but Lib Dems should not? If you want women,. ethnic minorities and all other sections of society, then support Single Transferable Vote – if you aren’t really arsed about it, join the Labour Party.

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]]> By: Mike http://www.leftfootforward.org/2010/07/electoral-reformers-should-oppose-the-coalitions-gerrymandering/comment-page-2/#comment-41715 Mike Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:46:24 +0000 http://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=16903#comment-41715 see Clegg got Lib Dem partners (wives etc) to No 10 Garden party just in case they were getting cold feet oh the trappings of power a few OBES, The Lords etc just keep being a fig leaf for the Tories see Clegg got Lib Dem partners (wives etc) to No 10 Garden party just in case they were getting cold feet

oh the trappings of power

a few OBES, The Lords etc

just keep being a fig leaf for the Tories

]]> By: Brian Corbett http://www.leftfootforward.org/2010/07/electoral-reformers-should-oppose-the-coalitions-gerrymandering/comment-page-2/#comment-41707 Brian Corbett Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:23:23 +0000 http://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=16903#comment-41707 Why 600 seats and not 400? Far, far too many MPs all living at tax-payers expense. With much UK law now based in Brussels, we clearly need (at most) 400 MPs and 250 Lords (with co-opted speakers for debates, but with no voting rights) Gender equality is a mindless mantra - I simply want the best people in any job, anywhere, any time - everything else matters not a jot. Since the most important and useful job any human can do is to care for their children, I'd expect most MPs to be male -the great tragedy of the past 30 years has been the idea that women NEED to go out to work to be useful or valued. The greatest harm to our society by a false dogma ever perpetrated on two generations of children and one I hope will change from now on. Why 600 seats and not 400?
Far, far too many MPs all living at tax-payers expense.
With much UK law now based in Brussels, we clearly need (at most) 400 MPs and 250 Lords (with co-opted speakers for debates, but with no voting rights)

Gender equality is a mindless mantra – I simply want the best people in any job, anywhere, any time – everything else matters not a jot.

Since the most important and useful job any human can do is to care for their children, I’d expect most MPs to be male -the great tragedy of the past 30 years has been the idea that women NEED to go out to work to be useful or valued.

The greatest harm to our society by a false dogma ever perpetrated on two generations of children and one I hope will change from now on.

]]> By: Dave http://www.leftfootforward.org/2010/07/electoral-reformers-should-oppose-the-coalitions-gerrymandering/comment-page-2/#comment-41704 Dave Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:11:42 +0000 http://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=16903#comment-41704 The poorest will never register not with a debt collector armed with the latest electoral roll hot on their tale. The poorest will never register not with a debt collector armed with the latest electoral roll hot on their tale.

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