Experts, doctors and commentators turn on health reforms

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Yeap. In fact, did you know that Currently, many insurance companies do not allow adult children to remain on their parents’ plan once they reach 19. Companies cannot do that any more. Search onilne for “Wise Health Insurance” and you can insure your kids if you are in the same boat.

It is the FT who has got “both the public policy and the politics badly wrong” – the WHOLE agenda, as Polly sums it up so eloquently, is to ““blow apart the unified NHS as a service and turn it into a purchasing agency.” Welcome to “Hollow Government” where our taxes all go to the hands of private providers.

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Good article Will. The basic problem opponents have is that the ordinary Joe Schmoe doesn’t fully understand the impications. I have tried to synopsise them {below}

Once you establish the Principal that the NHS does not have the expertise to treat certain patients for certain illness, you start a drip feed. You lose specialist doctors to private medical companies. Medical innovation takes place in the private domain, and if the privateers have any sense, it stays in the private domain. The NHS stops employing, building, innovating, and improving. Instead it begins writing cheques, smallish ones at first, to private businesses. Apparently this will accelerate innovation, as well as improve choice and success ratios at treatments. But if one accepts any of this logic, then they are in effect acquiescing to the marketisation of the NHS. At first this will be an internal market, but after a period of a few years, it will be almost impossible to reverse the trends on lessening personnel, the trend of declining specialisms, the trends of faceless companies selling you products at their price that are essential to the health of your patients. The NHS will basically resemble a cattle market for financiers to pick their animal, cart it off, treat it, and cash their prize. It took me a long time to get any of this, and I think that was Lansley’s intention.

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Former Tory Health Secretary Stephen Dorrell, issues HSC report on Andrew Lansley’s NHS reforms today. http://j.mp/hipdFR

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Eoin – When this policy was introduced by the Labour government (In 2004 private hospitals were paid £100m from the NHS for 60,000 patients as part of efforts to cut waiting times) I’m sure not one of those people treated would have complained about being treated in a private hospital. Quite the reverse I feel.

It’s all very well people jumping up and down about the NHS until they experience the dire aspects of it’s totally incompetent management.

There are more managers than doctors and nurses – I don’t care what a few grumbling thick medical professionals, too stupid to implement new ideas, think. Ignore them. This government rightly will.

The NHS is a crumbling mess – the increases of money by the last government weren’t matched by increases in efficiency and it needs sorting soonest. It is a disgraceful waste of other peoples money to continue as it is.

Asda, Tesco, Sainsburys or any other country would go bust if they operated as badly as the NHS. Appointments for operations can’t be made by email in 2011 for goodness sake – despite £billions being spent on IT. Someone needs to be sacked.

This country now has a radical government and if Labour doesn’t buck it’s ideas up, start admitting where it went wrong and getting with the program it will be consigned to opposition for a long while yet. Blair should have had some balls and got on with it…

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@Anon reminds me of Colonel Blimp. In his world everyone is incompetent and so nothing changes in his view. His prescription then becomes “what we need is a pointless sacrifice.” In the case of the NHS it is too important to peoples lives to discuss it in troll terms. If he wants a revolution fine, let him go out on the streets. If he wants change managed to ensure improvement then he must take the practitioners with him. It is on that charge that the government is bang to rights.

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Simon Landau – I have personal experience of this just this week. Partner goes private (Healthcare via Unison) is seen and treated within 6 days.

Business partner (both roughly the same age) has waited since June last year on the NHS and is due in on Friday but that isn’t guaranteed and the hoops that she had to jump through you wouldn’t believe.

In your world Simon it appears you care nothing for the people treated under the current system or you would want better cancer outcomes – why not tell me if you think those treated under Labours farming out to private companies care where the operations were carried out?

You display the typical dogma of some socialist super state type wish and why wouldn’t you want things to improve for patients?

If these practitioners don’t like it tell them to work somewhere else. Either get with the program or move on but with GP’s on £113K a year a doubt they will.

Try coming up with something constructive Simon Landau. You do Labour no favours…

For the all the moaners on the right, including ministers who love to subtly rubbish the health service in their speeches, the fact is satisfaction with the NHS is at an all time high.

The government’s British Social Attitudes survey reported recently that in 1997, only a third of people (34%) were satisfied with the NHS. Yet by 2009, satisfaction had nearly doubled, and stood at two thirds (64%).

The politics of all this will be interesting however: with no support amongst NHS staff groups at this early stage, the Coalition now faces several years drip feed of bad news – cuts, service restrictions, wider regional variations, bed closures, hospital mergers and growing private sector influence. “I’ll cut the deficit,not the NHS” will come back to haunt DC.

@Anon – “I don’t care what a few grumbling thick medical professionals, too stupid to implement new ideas, think. Ignore them.”

Yes, medical professionals are notably stupid people, aren’t they?

I mean back in school you always knew it’d be the classroom dunce, who couldn’t tie his shoelaces till he was fifteen, who’d wind up as a consultant oncologist. And is there really anything a brain surgeon does that a well-trained monkey couldn’t handle?

Yes, the government really will be showing great wisdom by ignoring the views of such intellectually limited people.

Alan W – I hear so much moaning and groaning about GP this and GP that as if they do not have the ability to make the changes the government require.

They are supposed to be the cream of our society and it isn’t about the whining I have problems with, it’s the fact that they are just resisting change and it is costing the public in efficiency terms.

These GP’s basically are left leaning and feel they need to carp on about the government and despite all the doom and gloom stuff from the Labour Party, what has actually happened so far?

No double dip recession is a prime example. After the election in May last, we actually had Labour PM’s who were arguing that we shouldn’t pay off our debts quickly because of blah blah – well they were wrong and if one pauses for a second it is obvious why.

To continue accruing a debt interest of £120 million per day makes no economic sense.

To continuing running the NHS the way it is being run makes no medical sense.

The NHS should have been changed under Labour with the best Prime Minister the party ever had, Tony Blair. He had the majority needed but didn’t have the balls – so it’s down to the coalition.

The left don’t like the fact they are now led by Ed Miliband which they knows means no government for them until he’s long gone. It’s over guys. Labour lost the election. Get over it….

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