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Left Foot Forward > Published by Tim Horton, May 15th 2011 at 6:03 pm

Using No2AV’s cant on public spending to campaign against cuts

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Tim Horton is the research director of the Fabian Society

After yesterday’s failed Rally Against Debt – attracting around 500 attendees, despite the benefit of a Times opinion column and coverage across the newspapers – we thought it was time to turn the tables on the Tories by using the No2AV posters they funded to campaign against the Coalition’s cuts.

Baby-poster
These posters, you may recall, courted controversy during the referendum campaign with a claim that the Alternative Vote system would cost £250 million alongside a picture of a baby, arguing the money would be better spent on maternity units. Another poster carried the picture of a soldier, arguing for more spending on bulletproof vests.

It was ironic to see a campaign funded by Conservative backers and run by the chief executive of the right-wing TaxPayers’ Alliance – who organised yesterday’s rally – championing public spending. It must have been a refreshing change for them to be able to harness people’s love of public services, rather than trying to do them down all the time. But, in the process, the No campaign have given us a great way to campaign against the cuts.

Thanks to Clifford Singer of The Other Taxpayer’s Alliance, the creative force behind the MyDavidCameron.com phenomenon, we have transformed these iconic images into arguments against the coalition’s programme. And, now the referendum is over, we’ll keep using these posters to remind the Tories of popular support for our services.

Soldier-poster
In the meantime, I’ll be writing to the TaxPayers’ Alliance to ask if they’ll join with the Fabian Society to call for higher spending on maternity units and soldiers’ equipment, rather than their current focus on even deeper cuts to corporation tax.

  • http://twitter.com/chuzzlit/status/69810663328972800 Alison Charlton

    Interesting. RT @leftfootfwd: Using No2AV's cant on public spending to campaign against cuts http://bit.ly/kElOBL

  • http://twitter.com/s8mb/status/69811280550166528 Sam Bowman

    Using No2AV's pub spending rhetoric against cuts. Or, why "he needs a bulletproof vest not AV" was a stupid tactic: http://t.co/lZpUCPh

  • http://twitter.com/kinell88/status/69811461555355649 Ell Aitch

    RT @leftfootfwd: Using No2AV's cant on public spending to campaign against cuts http://bit.ly/kvLhEj by Fabians Society's Tim Horton

  • http://twitter.com/drblighty/status/69811756083576832 Stephen

    RT @leftfootfwd: Using No2AV's cant on public spending to campaign against cuts http://bit.ly/kElOBL

  • http://twitter.com/timjhorton/status/69811922333216768 Tim Horton

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  • http://twitter.com/timjhorton/status/69812724959420416 Tim Horton

    New spoof posters from the genius of @OtherTPA …He needs bulletproof vests, not another corporation tax cut http://bit.ly/mTzU0l

  • http://twitter.com/philntaylor/status/69812744743948288 Phil Taylor

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  • http://twitter.com/shamikdas/status/69813237788590080 Shamik Das

    Gr8 piece by Tim! RT LFF: Using #No2AV's cant on public spending to campaign against cuts: http://t.co/sybapwv by @TheFabians' @TimJHorton

  • http://twitter.com/rthonir/status/69813493779546112 James Gleave

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    Gr8 piece by Tim! RT LFF: Using #No2AV's cant on public spending to campaign against cuts: http://t.co/sybapwv by @TheFabians' @TimJHorton

  • http://twitter.com/thefabians/status/69814037327790080 The Fabian Society

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  • http://twitter.com/jackseale/status/69815304741593088 Jack Seale

    Heh. RT @leftfootfwd: Using #No2AV's cant on public spending to campaign against cuts: http://t.co/sybapwv by @TheFabians' @TimJHorton

  • http://twitter.com/neilrfoster/status/69815893852557313 neilrfoster

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  • http://twitter.com/therightarticle/status/69816451552382976 Michael

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  • http://twitter.com/leebo/status/69817571477700608 leebo

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  • http://twitter.com/nextleft/status/69821904835452929 Sunder Katwala

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  • http://twitter.com/wdjstraw/status/69822454842925056 Will Straw

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  • http://twitter.com/nextleft/status/69822544819138560 Sunder Katwala

    'She needs a maternity unit, not a costly NHS reorganisation' @dpjhodges – can we can we count on your support? http://t.co/sybapwv

  • http://twitter.com/kevpeel/status/69822605183549440 Kevin Peel

    "She needs a maternity unit NOT a costly NHS reorganisation". Will TaxPayers Alliance support @TheFabians new campaign http://t.co/sybapwv

  • http://twitter.com/eddyanderson/status/69822659038425089 Eddy Anderson

    "She needs a maternity unit NOT a costly NHS reorganisation". Will TaxPayers Alliance support @TheFabians new campaign http://t.co/sybapwv

  • http://twitter.com/kevpeel/status/69822671164145664 Kevin Peel

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  • http://twitter.com/peterward2008/status/69822823257997312 Peterward

    "She needs a maternity unit NOT a costly NHS reorganisation". Will TaxPayers Alliance support @TheFabians new campaign http://t.co/sybapwv

  • http://twitter.com/ismailmulla/status/69823443457163265 Ismail Mulla

    RT @leftfootfwd: Using #No2AV's cant on public spending to campaign against cuts: http://t.co/sybapwv by @TheFabians' @TimJHorton

  • http://twitter.com/alexcburrows/status/69823557357674496 Alex Burrows

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  • http://twitter.com/alexcburrows/status/69823585417576448 Alex Burrows

    "She needs a maternity unit NOT a costly NHS reorganisation". Will TaxPayers Alliance support @TheFabians new campaign http://t.co/sybapwv

  • http://twitter.com/supergm/status/69823669605642240 Philip Burrows

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  • http://twitter.com/katieljames/status/69823925697253376 Katie James

    RT @leftfootfwd Using #No2AV's cant on public spending to campaign against cuts: http://t.co/sybapwv by @TheFabians' @TimJHorton

  • http://twitter.com/catnip/status/69824600355241985 Julia Gilbert

    RT @superGM: She needs an incubator, not a costly reform of the NHS @TheFabians #genius http://t.co/sybapwv

  • http://twitter.com/thatgeoffchap/status/69825402058702849 Geoff White

    "She needs a maternity unit NOT a costly NHS reorganisation". Will TaxPayers Alliance support @TheFabians new campaign http://t.co/sybapwv

  • http://twitter.com/susan_nash/status/69826299170000897 Susan Nash

    "She needs a maternity unit NOT a costly NHS reorganisation". Will TaxPayers Alliance support @TheFabians new campaign http://t.co/sybapwv

  • http://twitter.com/jon_james_101/status/69826447048589312 Jonathan James

    "She needs a maternity unit NOT a costly NHS reorganisation". Will TaxPayers Alliance support @TheFabians new campaign http://t.co/sybapwv

  • http://twitter.com/cxkldh/status/69827693369229312 Alex Paradise

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  • http://twitter.com/thejamesdixon/status/69828927857758208 thejamesdixon

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  • http://twitter.com/marcusaroberts/status/69831694907211776 Marcus A. Roberts

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  • http://twitter.com/natandoron/status/69831701215449088 Natan Doron

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  • http://twitter.com/alicef71/status/69831932925591553 Monica Masson

    Turning the tables on the Tories: how those No2AV posters can make the case against the cuts http://bit.ly/mTzU0l and http://bit.ly/jGYH3E

  • http://twitter.com/davidwearing/status/69832487932665856 David Wearing

    RT @wdjstraw "She needs a maternity unit NOT a costly NHS reorganisation" http://bit.ly/mTzU0l

  • http://twitter.com/trakgalvis/status/69832910995324928 Trakgalvis

    RT @leftfootfwd: Using #No2AV's cant on public spending to campaign against cuts: http://t.co/sybapwv by @TheFabians' @TimJHorton

  • http://twitter.com/respectyourmind/status/69833868974370816 Caroline Farmer

    RT @davidwearing: RT @wdjstraw "She needs a maternity unit NOT a costly NHS reorganisation" http://bit.ly/mTzU0l

  • http://twitter.com/terrieynon/status/69835027025891328 Theresa Eynon

    "She needs a maternity unit NOT a costly NHS reorganisation". Will TaxPayers Alliance support @TheFabians new campaign http://t.co/sybapwv

  • http://twitter.com/othertpa/status/69840482011856896 Other TaxPayers Alli

    Nice: She needs a maternity unit NOT a costly NHS reorganisation, by @TimJHorton via @leftfootfwd http://bit.ly/m20KkH

  • http://twitter.com/beccalamjig/status/69840789068455936 Becca Lamont Jiggens

    RT @OtherTPA: Nice: She needs a maternity unit NOT a costly NHS reorganisation, by @TimJHorton via @leftfootfwd http://bit.ly/m20KkH

  • http://twitter.com/denny/status/69842377786925056 Denny

    RT @OtherTPA: Nice: She needs a maternity unit NOT a costly NHS reorganisation, by @TimJHorton via @leftfootfwd http://bit.ly/m20KkH

  • http://twitter.com/timjhorton/status/69842660445261824 Tim Horton

    Will taxpayers alliance back @timjhorton @leftfootfwd campaign for maternity care & put #No2AV posters to better use! http://t.co/sybapwv

  • http://twitter.com/liversedge/status/69842991191293952 liversedge

    RT @OtherTPA: Nice: She needs a maternity unit NOT a costly NHS reorganisation, by @TimJHorton via @leftfootfwd http://bit.ly/m20KkH

  • Geoff Braterman

    Excellent. I think this is the first Judo campaign I’ve seen – flooring your opponent with their own strength.

  • http://twitter.com/nathonraine/status/69847408972021760 Nathon Raine

    RT @leftfootfwd: Using No2AV's cant on public spending to campaign against cuts http://bit.ly/kElOBL

  • http://twitter.com/duncankeeling/status/69848758485123073 Duncan Keeling

    A bit of cheeky Left Foot Forward brilliance http://bit.ly/kElOBL http://twitpic.com/4y5hy2

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  • http://twitter.com/elizcro/status/69855641656758272 Elizabeth A

    RT @OtherTPA: Nice: She needs a maternity unit NOT a costly NHS reorganisation, by @TimJHorton via @leftfootfwd http://bit.ly/m20KkH

  • Dave Citizen

    Quite right to remind us of the choices made. I think a similar approach should be used in terms of the choices not made also:

    Reduce child poverty or drop the £2m Mansion Tax

    Tackle delapidated schools or please the lobby on reducing 50p tax rate.

    I also think Cameron should not be let off. The NHS debacle is at least as much his as it is Lansley’s. Dave “browbeater” Cameron is hardly one to be pushed out of the line by a fourth grader.

  • http://twitter.com/markholdstock/status/69862373506289664 Mark Holdstock

    Brilliant re-use of appalling No to AV posters http://bit.ly/jD9Uxc

  • http://twitter.com/timjhorton/status/69862895206408192 Tim Horton

    Gr8 piece by Tim! RT LFF: Using #No2AV's cant on public spending to campaign against cuts: http://t.co/sybapwv by @TheFabians' @TimJHorton

  • http://twitter.com/la_morkina/status/69864988013117440 La Morkina

    RT @leftfootfwd: Using #No2AV's cant on public spending to campaign against #cuts http://bit.ly/kElOBL #cameron #condems #nhs

  • http://twitter.com/joefd/status/69866905929912320 j farrington-douglas

    RT “@wdjstraw: "She needs a maternity unit NOT a costly NHS reorganisation". http://t.co/Lu9cDwD”

  • George McLean

    A genuine policy quesion:

    As alternatives to the present fiscal policies are considered, land value tax is becoming more important. Are the Fabians supportive and, if yes, what is the way forward? If not supportive, why not?

  • http://twitter.com/falseecon/status/69869366694526976 False Economy

    RT @timjhorton Turning the tables: how those No2AV posters can make the case against the cuts http://t.co/l9Avzmb

  • http://twitter.com/simonbarrow/status/69870061539704832 Simon Barrow

    RT @FalseEcon: RT @timjhorton Turning the tables: how those No2AV posters can make the case against the cuts http://t.co/l9Avzmb

  • http://twitter.com/candwclp/status/69870325508218881 C&W Labour

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  • http://twitter.com/michaelmarten/status/69870401160880129 Michael Marten

    RT @FalseEcon: RT @timjhorton Turning the tables: how those No2AV posters can make the case against the cuts http://t.co/l9Avzmb

  • http://twitter.com/tracy4rushmere/status/69871344149463041 Tracy Grant

    RT @FalseEcon: RT @timjhorton Turning the tables: how those No2AV posters can make the case against the cuts http://t.co/l9Avzmb

  • http://twitter.com/extraditiongame/status/69871969935441920 Extradition Game

    RT @leftfootfwd: Using #No2AV's cant on public spending to campaign against cuts: http://t.co/sybapwv by @TheFabians' @TimJHorton

  • http://twitter.com/leedsmum/status/69873942520791042 Mel from Leeds

    RT @FalseEcon: RT @timjhorton Turning the tables: how those No2AV posters can make the case against the cuts http://t.co/l9Avzmb

  • http://twitter.com/bob_lloyd/status/69875185532157952 Bob Lloyd

    New spoof posters from the genius of @OtherTPA …He needs bulletproof vests, not another corporation tax cut http://bit.ly/mTzU0l

  • mr. Sensible

    whilst I voted no myself, I do think that campaign was just a little opportunistic…

  • http://petermccoll.wordpress.com/2011/05/15/she-needs-a-maternity-unit-not-a-costly-nhs-reorganisation/ She needs a maternity unit, not a costly NHS reorganisation… « Peter McColl's Blog

    [...] From Left Foot Forward… [...]

  • http://twitter.com/joleski1/status/69891760544956416 Sam Jole

    RT @FalseEcon: RT @timjhorton Turning the tables: how those No2AV posters can make the case against the cuts http://t.co/l9Avzmb

  • http://twitter.com/traffordgreens/status/69893330229665792 Trafford Green Party

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  • http://twitter.com/timjhorton/status/69894011099430912 Tim Horton

    RT @FalseEcon: RT @timjhorton Turning the tables: how those No2AV posters can make the case against the cuts http://t.co/l9Avzmb

  • http://twitter.com/traffordgreens/status/69894185469214720 Trafford Green Party

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  • http://twitter.com/duncanweldon/status/69897565415555072 Duncan Weldon

    RT @FalseEcon: RT @timjhorton Turning the tables: how those No2AV posters can make the case against the cuts http://t.co/l9Avzmb

  • http://twitter.com/zeonglow/status/69898427823165441 Chris Huang-Leaver

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  • http://twitter.com/dollymixture/status/69899021791145984 dolly daydream

    RT @FalseEcon: RT @timjhorton Turning the tables: how those No2AV posters can make the case against the cuts http://t.co/l9Avzmb

  • http://twitter.com/drkmj/status/69904997252464640 DrKMJ

    RT @leftfootfwd: Using #No2AV's cant on public spending to campaign against cuts: http://t.co/sybapwv by @TheFabians' @TimJHorton

  • Tim Horton

    Hi George – the Fabians don’t have an organisational view on policies, but over the last decade we have published some important advocacy for land value taxation. Perhaps the most extensive discussion of this was in our Commission on Taxation and Citizenship (2001). Copies available from the Fabian bookshop: bookshop@fabian-society.org.uk

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  • http://twitter.com/nickbloke/status/69915797690138624 Nick H.

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  • http://twitter.com/bantimony/status/69998333594304512 Barbara

    RT @timjhorton Turning the tables: how those No2AV posters can make the case against the cuts http://t.co/l9Avzmb

  • http://twitter.com/timjhorton/status/70011562949230592 Tim Horton

    "He needs bulletproof vests NOT another corporation tax cut" http://bit.ly/m20KkH New spoof posters by @timjhorton and @OtherTPA

  • http://twitter.com/nextleft/status/70012608308199424 Sunder Katwala

    "He needs bulletproof vests NOT another corporation tax cut" http://bit.ly/m20KkH New spoof posters by @timjhorton and @OtherTPA

  • http://twitter.com/mattbluefoot/status/70013887755464704 Matt Bradley

    "He needs bulletproof vests NOT another corporation tax cut" http://bit.ly/m20KkH New spoof posters by @timjhorton and @OtherTPA

  • http://twitter.com/ijclark/status/70014491198361600 Ian Clark

    Using No2AV’s cant on public spending to campaign against cuts
    http://t.co/uUR28Ml

  • http://twitter.com/turnforever/status/70015597852889088 Ramzy

    RT @artificial_ape Fully approve of reappropriating no2AV's effective campaign efforts: http://bit.ly/ivAwJ4

  • http://twitter.com/trinagilman/status/70021917809197057 Katrina Gilman

    RT @FalseEcon: RT @timjhorton Turning the tables: how those No2AV posters can make the case against the cuts http://t.co/l9Avzmb

  • http://twitter.com/lesa50/status/70030384070529024 lesa

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  • http://twitter.com/mustberead/status/70038712683208704 MustBeRead

    At @LeftFootFwd, @TimJHorton turns a #No2AV poster into a Labour anti-cuts poster http://j.mp/mTzU0l

  • http://twitter.com/drpricey/status/70040339855048704 Alex Price

    RT @leftfootfwd: Using No2AV's cant on public spending to campaign against cuts http://bit.ly/kElOBL

  • http://twitter.com/puddletown_tom/status/70041861905055744 stephen marsh

    "He needs bulletproof vests NOT another corporation tax cut" http://bit.ly/m20KkH New spoof posters by @timjhorton and @OtherTPA

  • http://twitter.com/timjhorton/status/70044451497709568 Tim Horton

    RT @OtherTPA: Nice: She needs a maternity unit NOT a costly NHS reorganisation, by @TimJHorton via @leftfootfwd http://bit.ly/m20KkH

  • http://atoryblog.blogspot.com Man in a Shed

    Of course the left could oppose debt also by being honest about tax – rather than just using deferred taxation on our children to try to win elections. Still I guess your too selfish to do that.

    You poster should have you children’s futures being stolen by Gordon Brown’s desperate attempts to hold onto his job. Perhaps you could add those people killed by the NHS since Labour just couldn’t be bothered to stand up to its paymaster Unions and reform the NHS so its more effective ?

    Massive debt is immoral, and so it would seem are those whoa argue for it.

  • http://lon.bz john

    These are just as stupid and as nonsense as the originals – Part of me wants to say that two wrongs don’t make a right.
    But you can’t deny they didn’t really have it coming!

  • http://twitter.com/timjhorton/status/70067859707006976 Tim Horton

    RT @MustBeRead: At @LeftFootFwd, @TimJHorton turns a #No2AV poster into a Labour anti-cuts poster http://j.mp/mTzU0l

  • Anon E Mouse

    I think this second poster illustrates just how out of touch Labour really are.

    Forget Gene Hunt firing up the Quattro which made Cameron look great.

    Forget Flashman which gives him character and makes him look great (Alan Johnson’s wrong with that one).

    This will serve only to remind people:

    1. The war in Iraq and the lies from Alistair Cambell over the dodgy dossier.
    2. The fact the Tories are bringing in the military covenant not Labour.
    3. The disgraceful way the Gurkhas were treated by the Labour government.
    4. The underfunding of our troops re. helicopters and Gordon Brown.

    To remind the public how badly Labour let down our forces with this poster shows a gulf between Labour and ordinary people in this country that is breathtaking. Who comes up with these ideas?

    Stupid. Stupid. Stupid…

  • http://twitter.com/pauliwauli2/status/70069716345036801 Paula Walker

    These are a brilliant idea. RT @leftfootfwd: Using No2AV's cant on public spending to campaign against cuts http://bit.ly/kElOBL

  • http://twitter.com/redstarbelsize/status/70070698172882944 William French

    RT @MustBeRead: At @LeftFootFwd, @TimJHorton turns a #No2AV poster into a Labour anti-cuts poster http://j.mp/mTzU0l

  • Ed’s Talking Balls

    Lower rates of corporation tax to help businesses grow, you say?

    You’ve convinced me: I’m voting Yes2Osborne’sCuts.

  • Tim Horton

    I am detecting some disgruntled right-wing comments from people who don’t seem to want to accept there is a trade off between cutting corporation tax and maintaining military spending.

    Well there is. Deal with it.

    When David Cameron argues that “we don’t have the money”, what he means is he’d rather spend the money on tax cuts for big business, even if the RAF are making qualified pilots redundant. What a shame the Tories’ ideological desire to shrink the state outweighs their commitment to the armed forces.

    More interesting would be to hear which one of these is a higher priority for Conservative supporters. The Tory-led Government have prioritised tax cuts, but I’d be really interested to hear if this corresponds to the priorities of Tory members / voters. My guess is that far less than half of Tory members are Thatcherite, and that most are socially Conservative & would probably prioritise military spending over tax cuts.

  • http://twitter.com/samgoosejones/status/70256706218766336 Samantha Goose Jones

    Awesomeness, lets get on this http://bit.ly/jD9Uxc

  • http://twitter.com/mattblackall/status/70257173833322496 Matt Blackall

    RT @samgoosejones: Awesomeness, lets get on this http://bit.ly/jD9Uxc

  • Anon E Mouse

    Tim Horton – My remarks are about the poster not the message.

    I realise that Labour’s love of warmongering and slavish support for Republican US Presidents, means we no longer need a justifiable cause (unlike the Falklands or Gulf War 1) for the party to want to go to war so it will cost more.

    There were also a lot of tax cuts under the last government Tim. They cut the level of 10p tax on the poorest remember whilst knighting the likes of Fred Godwin. Nice to see Labour activists supporting the military though. I remember Labour having a very pacifist agenda in the days there was a difference between the parties…

  • http://twitter.com/dntbreakbritain/status/70845309667909633 Don’t Break Britain

    RT @leftfootfwd: Using No2AV's cant on public spending to campaign against cuts http://t.co/FmLtWqF

  • http://twitter.com/chariiebear/status/71106299047317504 Jayne H

    RT @FalseEcon: RT @timjhorton Turning the tables: how those No2AV posters can make the case against the cuts http://t.co/l9Avzmb

  • Richard

    “There were also a lot of tax cuts under the last government Tim. They cut the level of 10p tax on the poorest”

    And restored it. Surely you remember, benefit scrounger?

  • Richard

    “we no longer need a justifiable cause… to go to war”

    If Libya is justifiable, then so is Syria and Yemen, but Scameron is as much a mendacious, hypocritical war-monger as his predecessors so what do you care?

  • lastname

    I agree with the second poster but the first is ignoring the fact that the reorganisation will save money, not cost money, and is therefore nonsense.