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A crowd psychology analysis of the riots

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By Clifford Stott, senior lecturer in crowd psychology at the University of Liverpool, and chief scientific officer for pan-European football police training project
 
How did a peaceful protest on Saturday evening escalate to the serious rioting over consecutive nights on a scale not witnessed since the ‘inner city’ riots of the 1980s?
  
The difficulty we are faced with, as a society in the context of a ‘politics of riot’, is that meaningful dialogue to address this important question is almost impossible. 
  
What dominates at present are vitriolic debates loaded with moral indignation that are as much about pathologising crowd action, attributing blame and denying responsibility as they are about truth and objectivity.
  
If the political discourse is anything to go by our society is under attack from ‘outsiders’ hell bent on ‘mindless criminality’ from whom we need protection through robust policing.
  
The spread of this ‘disorder’ to other areas such as Hackney, Peckham and Croydon is described as ‘copycat’; a notion that conveys that people are drawn into the looting and attacks not because of any meaningful processes but simply because they have seen these things going on.
  
Another feature that is a focus of media analysis is the potentially negative role played by the Blackberry mobile phone and its unique ‘closed’ and relatively anonymizing mass messaging system.
 
But this transition from peaceful to riotous crowds is, of course, one of the fundamental questions of crowd psychology.
 
In addressing it over the last thirty years my colleagues and I have made some important advances in scientific understanding of how and why riots come about.
  
Of central importance is that we know that ‘riots’ cannot be understood as an explosion of ‘mob ‘irrationality’. Nor can they be adequately explained in terms of individuals predisposed to criminality by nature of their pathological disposition.
  
The behavior of these people in smashing up their ‘own communities’ may seem irrational to some but to the ‘rioters’ themselves these targets are highly meaningful. These meanings in turn always relate to their sense of themselves as a social group and of the illegitimacy of their relationship to others around them.
  
In this respect it is highly meaningful that these riots began in a context of the shooting of Mark Duggan. This incident represented for many within his community the ongoing antagonistic relationship they have with the Metropolitan Police that fed into the social and psychological dynamics of the events on Saturday night.
  
It is highly relevant that in the context of these riots people have taken the emerging opportunity to target shops selling high-end electrical goods, clothes and jewelry.
  
In this age of austerity, such items are becoming increasingly unobtainable to ever-larger sections of the working class and it should not be surprising that some are using the riots as an opportunity to obtain them. 
  
To render crowd action as meaningful and driven to a large degree by contextual issues is not to act as an apologist for these riots. Nor is it to accept as legitimate the attacks against ordinary working  people, businesses, homes and families.
 
In fact our work has played an important role in developing policing methods that prevent riots from happening. Our science also underpins many of the recent recommendations made by the HMIC following the death of Ian Tomlinson during the G20 protests.
  
These approaches do not rely on the reactive use of force.  Instead they prioritize proactive interventions based upon dialogue as a means for building and maintaining police legitimacy.
  
 Our argument then is that to render the riots meaningless is actually to deny the opportunity that we must take to understand them if we are to take the appropriate measures that will prevent them in the future.
  • http://twitter.com/2manymics/status/100885867006144512 jeff spencer

    @Jen_Catter RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots: http://bit.ly/ppkiNo : by @livuni 's Clifford Stott

  • http://twitter.com/paulwilks/status/100885987579797504 PaulWilks

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots: http://bit.ly/ppkiNo : by @livuni 's Clifford Stott

  • http://twitter.com/bloggerheads/status/100886035671687168 Tim Ireland

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots: http://bit.ly/ppkiNo : by @livuni 's Clifford Stott

  • http://twitter.com/ashrafchoudhury/status/100886080961773568 Ashraf Choudhury

    A crowd psychology analysis of the #riots http://t.co/3VIcGPD Great piece… #LondonRiots RT @LeftFootForward

  • http://twitter.com/heyrusty/status/100886208296665088 Cam

    Let's hope articles like this one don't get drowned by all the reactionary discourse doing the rounds. http://t.co/eJVYr8J

  • http://twitter.com/richienimmo/status/100886307491946496 Richie Nimmo

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/BLNUIyA #londonriots #ukriots

  • http://twitter.com/endless_psych/status/100887007110234112 Riddle like

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots | Left Foot Forward http://t.co/M0MsLpQ

  • http://twitter.com/grohl_/status/100887163037683713 Nick Groll

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  • http://twitter.com/endless_psych/status/100887190988521472 Riddle like

    @lesmondine @GillRockatansky n woolier terms than I would but this is part of the thing I was trying to convey http://t.co/M0MsLpQ

  • http://twitter.com/lucyomalley/status/100887487907495936 Lucy O’Malley

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/BLNUIyA #londonriots #ukriots

  • http://twitter.com/sonenimusic/status/100887657546133504 Soneni Nkomo

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  • http://twitter.com/iansaville/status/100888731908714496 Ian Saville

    Good but incomplete RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/qm7eMhW

  • http://twitter.com/fam6/status/100889013036130304 Faith Martin

    And there we go ;) RT @leftfootfwd A crowd psychology analysis of the riots: http://t.co/ci6COHa : by @livuni 's Clifford Stott

  • http://twitter.com/dratnaike/status/100890248673886208 Dànaidh Ratnaike

    Crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://bit.ly/ppkiNo

  • http://twitter.com/soktahu/status/100890582603399169 Annabel

    Crowd psychology analysis of the riots – http://t.co/w2M5ym1

  • http://twitter.com/mvdct/status/100891073064349696 miles thompson

    one possible psychological perspective on recent events in london and elsewhere. worth a read. http://t.co/0RXo2AI #londonriots #riotcleanup

  • http://twitter.com/crimeprofreiter/status/100891622878887936 Mary Lia Reiter

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/BLNUIyA #londonriots #ukriots

  • http://twitter.com/andyjameshicks/status/100891838755520512 Andy Hicks

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/WqNfjB5

  • http://twitter.com/carleesmailbox/status/100892660398698496 carlees

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots: But this transition from peaceful to riotous crowds is, of course, one… http://bit.ly/ppZfc1

  • http://twitter.com/newpsychologist/status/100892659207516160 NewPsychologist

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://bit.ly/otbVYi

  • http://twitter.com/wonderofthis/status/100892667029889024 david brockman

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots: But this transition from peaceful to riotous crowds is, of course, one… http://bit.ly/nphCG6

  • http://twitter.com/psychologymarc/status/100892995397758976 Marc Smith

    RT @NewPsychologist: A crowd psychology analysis of the #riots http://bit.ly/otbVYi #psychology

  • http://twitter.com/ratihsesa/status/100893017422053377 Ratih Sesa Putri

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  • http://twitter.com/vineshkznsa/status/100893142265507840 darren vinesh naidoo

    RT @NewPsychologist: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://bit.ly/otbVYi

  • http://twitter.com/daneduncan/status/100893408633176064 MrTaurus

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://bit.ly/rnSMX9

  • http://twitter.com/elimarit/status/100893642574659584 Marit Røkeberg

    Dr Clifford Stott speaks sense on BBC News. #londonriots Read more: http://t.co/4Fkmsi9

  • http://twitter.com/ashdisorient/status/100893747990110208 ash sharma

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots: http://bit.ly/ppkiNo : by @livuni 's Clifford Stott

  • http://twitter.com/tomgidden/status/100893818156621824 Tom Gidden

    Dr Clifford Stott, crowd psychologist, interviewed by the BBC, making a LOT of sense. Some articles: http://t.co/W2zQPVw http://t.co/qP7GqIk

  • http://twitter.com/petebowler/status/100894265978261504 Pete Bowler

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/17rDuXE

  • http://twitter.com/benptooey/status/100894413399670784 Ben Smith

    Dr Clifford Stott, crowd psychologist, interviewed by the BBC, making a LOT of sense. Some articles: http://t.co/W2zQPVw http://t.co/qP7GqIk

  • http://twitter.com/tonykanegu2/status/100894805906817024 Tony Kane

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://bit.ly/otbVYi

  • http://twitter.com/theselflessmeme/status/100894918695854080 Mike Finn

    I'm not being sarcastic when I say it's time to listen to the Liverpool sociologists: http://bit.ly/pIR3FL (via @leftfootforward)

  • http://twitter.com/footylass/status/100895526215626754 Linda Greenwood

    RT @NewPsychologist: A crowd psychology analysis of the #riots http://bit.ly/otbVYi #psychology

  • http://twitter.com/kathybirdtribe/status/100895595459395584 kathleen

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots | Left Foot Forward http://t.co/M0MsLpQ

  • http://twitter.com/leedspostcards/status/100896129423650816 Leeds Postcards

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots: http://bit.ly/ppkiNo : by @livuni 's Clifford Stott

  • http://twitter.com/davidward81/status/100896424597786624 David Ward

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/qSRgriV

  • http://twitter.com/morriseric/status/100896542029922305 Eric Morris

    one possible psychological perspective on recent events in london and elsewhere. worth a read. http://t.co/0RXo2AI #londonriots #riotcleanup

  • http://twitter.com/vicky_loves_tea/status/100896805386063874 Vicky Richings

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots: http://bit.ly/ppkiNo : by @livuni 's Clifford Stott

  • http://twitter.com/allaboutbrains/status/100896910776352768 Deep thought

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://bit.ly/otbVYi

  • http://twitter.com/carlbaker/status/100897017554927616 Carl Baker

    I'm not being sarcastic when I say it's time to listen to the Liverpool sociologists: http://bit.ly/pIR3FL (via @leftfootforward)

  • http://twitter.com/morungos/status/100897030444027905 Stuart Watt

    “@leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots: http://t.co/1Of0ETT : by @livuni 's Clifford Stott” < important

  • http://twitter.com/peterbrownpsy/status/100897034885799936 Peter H Brown

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://bit.ly/oJqQEP

  • http://twitter.com/ol_mck/status/100897309163913216 o prior mckeown

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots: http://bit.ly/ppkiNo : by @livuni 's Clifford Stott

  • http://twitter.com/duane_c/status/100898165619834880 Duane Chong

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://bit.ly/otbVYi

  • http://twitter.com/megatronjones/status/100898820451336192 Meg Jones

    More good blog posts on the #LondonRiots – #4 http://t.co/5IPV845 'A crowd psychology analysis of the riots.' From @leftfootfwd

  • http://twitter.com/vcofknowsley/status/100898911216078848 Keith Hudson

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots | Left Foot Forward: http://t.co/RKNvybb via @addthis

  • http://twitter.com/kennyevil/status/100899280809758720 Chris Gannon

    To render crowd action as meaningful and driven .. by contextual issues is not to act as an apologist for these riots. http://t.co/tGVtoJ3

  • http://twitter.com/yodmanudying/status/100900080508346368 yodmanudying

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://bit.ly/otbVYi

  • http://twitter.com/andyjameshicks/status/100900402140164096 Andy Hicks

    this is useful @ruthie_dee @LSheasby RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/WqNfjB5

  • http://twitter.com/tmyoungman/status/100904005173125120 Tom Youngman

    Crowd psychologist Clifford Stott: ‘riots’ cannot be understood as an explosion of ‘mob irrationality’ http://t.co/1mkYURv via @leftfootfwd

  • Peter Roberts

    Really interesting, I was always taught that Le Bon et al were wrong in relation to the contagion thesis, but I guess riots, looting, mobs can be removed from other forms of collective action.

  • http://twitter.com/andy_thetigers/status/100904853357858817 Andy Beill

    "to render the riots meaningless is actually to deny the opportunity… to understand them [to] prevent them in future." http://t.co/dZ8eCKp

  • http://twitter.com/marthaltc/status/100904873633128448 Martha Lawton

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots: http://bit.ly/ppkiNo : by @livuni 's Clifford Stott

  • http://twitter.com/woodypaul2/status/100906395431477248 Woody Paul

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots: But this transition from peaceful to riotous crowds is, of course, one… http://bit.ly/pmoP5I

  • http://twitter.com/janewatkinson/status/100906527245873152 Jane Watkinson

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/7QWIhIr <<< interesting read.

  • http://twitter.com/libbypennlondon/status/100907475850629121 Libby Penn

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/SRJxCFs

  • http://twitter.com/jonmsutton/status/100908331144708096 Jon Sutton

    Psychologist Clifford Stott on the riots http://ow.ly/5YDff

  • http://twitter.com/rdlteam/status/100909025859870720 Rothwell Douglas Ltd

    RT @jonmsutton Psychologist Clifford Stott on the riots http://t.co/jb3E0nz #londonriots

  • http://twitter.com/headforawin/status/100909243380678656 Richard Collins

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/kMduhGf

  • http://twitter.com/joanna_r/status/100909677113655296 Joanna Roberts

    Psychologist Clifford Stott on the riots http://ow.ly/5YDff

  • http://twitter.com/lucy_shepherd/status/100910018244784129 Lucy Shepherd

    Psychologist Clifford Stott on the riots http://ow.ly/5YDff

  • http://twitter.com/psychologytom/status/100910534177734656 Tom Freeman

    Psychologist Clifford Stott on the riots http://ow.ly/5YDff

  • http://twitter.com/cathloveday/status/100911274057138176 Catherine Loveday

    Psychologist Clifford Stott on the riots http://ow.ly/5YDff

  • http://twitter.com/bpsofficial/status/100912767468449792 BPSOfficial

    Psychologist Clifford Stott on the riots http://ow.ly/5YDff

  • http://twitter.com/dented85/status/100912966643351552 Emma Slater
  • http://twitter.com/theswiv/status/100913027762757633 The Swiv

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots: http://bit.ly/ppkiNo : by @livuni 's Clifford Stott

  • http://twitter.com/athsite/status/100913838647545856 AllThingsHuman

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/slb5kEb

  • http://twitter.com/healthpsych4u/status/100914018188931072 Kate Hamilton-West

    one possible psychological perspective on recent events in london and elsewhere. worth a read. http://t.co/0RXo2AI #londonriots #riotcleanup

  • http://twitter.com/cathcyfbangor/status/100915939377299456 CATh Cyf

    Psychologist Clifford Stott on the riots http://ow.ly/5YDff

  • http://twitter.com/djryan/status/100916308706729985 Damien Ryan

    Riots cannot be understood as an explosion of mob irrationality nor… individuals predisposed to criminality – http://bit.ly/qstKOW

  • http://twitter.com/ecurran23/status/100916767257395200 Emma Curran

    Psychologist Clifford Stott on the riots http://ow.ly/5YDff

  • http://twitter.com/joabha/status/100917333236781056 JoJoHa

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/WDHiena

  • http://twitter.com/claireygoo/status/100917550040350720 Claire Goodfellow

    “@jonmsutton: Psychologist Clifford Stott on the riots http://t.co/6EhOwmv” wondered if Stott & Reicher wld comment. Their area of expertise

  • http://twitter.com/haylz_lou/status/100918080250720256 Hayley….

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/BJm7ay3

  • http://twitter.com/foxinclogs/status/100918994697068544 Chris Owen

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/BJm7ay3

  • http://twitter.com/mortari/status/100921079891116032 Georgie

    Crowd psychology: austerity, police antagonism & luxury goods http://t.co/7YGUKCB

  • http://twitter.com/claudiahammond/status/100921957108809728 Claudia Hammond

    Interesting analysis of the riots from Clifford Stott based on his career in crowd research. RT @jonmsutton http://t.co/aErJI1v

  • http://twitter.com/sevenhelz/status/100922402485182464 Helen Clavering

    http://t.co/Z3GnWDq "to render the riots meaningless is to to [fail to] take appropriate measure to prevent them in future" via @mortari

  • http://twitter.com/mymindgetslost/status/100922415923728385 anna banana

    Crowd psychology: austerity, police antagonism & luxury goods http://t.co/7YGUKCB

  • http://twitter.com/alexbrassard/status/100923263949082625 Alexandre Brassard

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://feedly.com/k/q8TNnt

  • http://twitter.com/martlee/status/100924268589748227 Martyn Lee

    Interesting: Clifford Stott, senior lecturer in crowd psychology writes today… http://j.mp/rrPlct

  • http://twitter.com/noelmcdermott/status/100924357798408192 Noel McDermott

    Interesting analysis of the riots from Clifford Stott based on his career in crowd research. RT @jonmsutton http://t.co/aErJI1v

  • http://twitter.com/harpersnotes/status/100924381978562560 Richard Harper

    Psychologist Clifford Stott on the riots http://ow.ly/5YDff

  • http://twitter.com/redfoxcountry/status/100924575113682944 Tony Martin

    Interesting analysis of the riots from Clifford Stott based on his career in crowd research. RT @jonmsutton http://t.co/aErJI1v

  • http://twitter.com/psypress/status/100924914751639552 Psychology Press

    RT @jonmsutton: Psychologist Clifford Stott on the riots http://ow.ly/5YDff #londonriots #crowdpsychology

  • http://twitter.com/terrieynon/status/100925370697646081 Theresa Eynon

    “@jonmsutton: C.Stott http://t.co/ihj8Ch0” to render riots meaningless is to deny opportunity understand & prevent them in the future.
    True

  • http://twitter.com/mlle_bavarde/status/100925407557193728 Ana Maria

    RT @jonmsutton: Psychologist Clifford Stott on the riots http://ow.ly/5YDff #londonriots #crowdpsychology

  • http://twitter.com/qmupsychology/status/100925734717104128 QMUPsychology

    RT @jonmsutton: Psychologist Clifford Stott on the riots http://ow.ly/5YDff #londonriots #crowdpsychology

  • http://twitter.com/sinjax/status/100926113718611968 Dr Sina Samangooei

    Crowd psychology: austerity, police antagonism & luxury goods http://t.co/7YGUKCB

  • http://twitter.com/davidjhendy/status/100926541952851969 David Hendy

    Interesting analysis of the riots from Clifford Stott based on his career in crowd research. RT @jonmsutton http://t.co/aErJI1v

  • http://twitter.com/lethargy/status/100926832811053056 Marcus

    Crowd psychology: austerity, police antagonism & luxury goods http://t.co/7YGUKCB

  • http://twitter.com/ffingy/status/100927389063843840 ffingy

    Interesting analysis of the riots from Clifford Stott based on his career in crowd research. RT @jonmsutton http://t.co/aErJI1v

  • http://cameron-cloggysmoralcompass.blogspot.com/ gracie

    I am so reassured when I read the work of people like Dr Stott, even though it does take a great deal for me to try and see these “rioters” in a different light to what my natural inclination is to see them. I am glad that he and others carry out this dispassionate unbiased assessment, it is what is needed and I hope our politicians and police consult when they are making our laws and future policy.

  • http://twitter.com/paulsmithie/status/100933973974335488 Paul Smith

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://bit.ly/rnSMX9 – Clifford Stott (my old lecturer…)

  • http://twitter.com/escarped/status/100933976448958464 Joy Icayan

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/3Q9lQom

  • http://twitter.com/enabledby/status/100935185717149698 Enabled by Design

    RT @leftfootfwd: #psychology analysis of #riots: http://bit.ly/ppkiNo by Dr Stott of Uni of Liverpool who was interviewed on @BBCNews today

  • http://www.noelmcdermott.net Noel McDermott

    Yes we need to find the meaning in these events. I might add there are other things such as boredom, alcohol and drug disinhibition etc going on as well as some fo the factors you touch upon. Sometimes it is useful to take an aggregation perspective in terms of understanding individual agency and social action. I think this may be more true in the age of mass availability social communications media. Social in this context meaning available for opportunistic usage.

  • http://twitter.com/j_poser/status/100965704681009152 Joseph Poser

    RT @leftfootfwd: Crowd Psychologists take on riots, definitely worth a read http://t.co/SXyhBcJ

  • Anon E Mouse

    Clifford Stott, – What a load of nonsense that does nothing but feed into the bleeding heart liberal brigade batch of excuses. Is this really the best analysis that a “senior lecturer” in our country can manage?

    You say that: “The behavior of these people in smashing up their ‘own communities’ may seem irrational to some but to the ‘rioters’ themselves these targets are highly meaningful.”

    Yes they are meaningful to these greedy, feckless criminals who totally disrespect other people and their property. All those shops were chosen because the feral criminals wanted to steal phones, trainers and plasma TV’s.

    There are people who had homes yesterday and tonight they have nothing. Absolutely nothing except a burned out shell with all their irreplaceable belongings trashed and done whilst the police watched on doing nothing because of politically correct idiots that have been given a voice in our country.

    The hypocrite Polly Toynbee types who preach about climate change whilst flying to her villa in Italy every week.

    What on earth does your final remark: “These approaches do not rely on the reactive use of force. Instead they prioritise proactive interventions based upon dialogue as a means for building and maintaining police legitimacy”

    actually do to put a roof over those people’s heads?

    A fiver says your home wasn’t under attack last night. Come down from your ivory tower, walk a mile in their shoes and let’s see if you still come up with these pathetic excuses for bad behaviour. Tough on crime?

  • http://twitter.com/hands0n/status/100969030768275456 Danny Thompson

    Bleeding heart liberalism RT @hedkrash The #londonriots – a left wing analysis presents a challenging view @leftfootfwd http://bit.ly/n1aAQe

  • http://twitter.com/toomanysounds/status/100970970315112448 Too Many Sounds

    Psychologist Clifford Stott on the riots http://ow.ly/5YDff

  • Craig

    Working class? That has long ceased to be meaningful in this context. Many of them have never worked a day in their life. How is it that immigrants (with all sorts of obstacles) can find work, yet British kids can’t? Possibly because there is no economic incentive (welfare without expectation of obligation). I would suggest that Stott is a voyeur of the spectacle but as he has no personal investment in it as far as the well being of his family (or himself), he can blather safely from the sidelines. Whilst I am a working person, I cannot afford many of those high end items (no I am not paying off a mortgage). I don’t feel compelled to loot. Or to kick someone’s head in for their trainers. I take the opposite view to Gracie. If folks such as yourself are the primary input for decision making on post riot response, I fear that the situation will only get worse and more riots will ensue.

  • jude

    Men in suits and ties–Wall Street– caused exponentially more damage than these rioters could hope to accomplish, even if they kept it up for weeks. The suits who caused the damage will never see a day in jail; to the contrary, they will thrive. I’m betting that the people in the streets in London have NOT been thriving. Yet the world watches and wonders what’s going on? These riots, as senseless and awful as they are, pale in comparison to the destruction wrought by nicely dressed gents.
    Violence is wrong. No exceptions. Jail time ahead for people participating in the riots.
    I just wish that the criminal plundering of of the US economy had resulted in shock and outrage proportionate to the crime and the number of people harmed.

  • http://twitter.com/claireot/status/100978265795198976 Claire OT

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots: http://bit.ly/ppkiNo : by @livuni 's Clifford Stott

  • http://twitter.com/bendygirl/status/100978422272114689 BendyGirl

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots: http://bit.ly/ppkiNo : by @livuni 's Clifford Stott

  • http://twitter.com/seerwan7/status/100978436666957824 Seerwan Jafar

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/Qe8Enua

  • Anon E Mouse

    jude – Perhaps you should explain that to the 40 individuals who had their homes and every single possession they owned burned out by mindless thugs with no respect for anyone except their greed or the workers now without jobs because the shops they worked in are destroyed.

    You mention the US financial system and I would just remind you of Enron and the jail sentences handed out for fraud over there dwarf anything the mamby pamby judges hand out over here.

    There is no correlation between wanton mindless violence which threatens people’s lives and corporate fraud and the sooner you silly Labour activists realise that the better.

  • http://twitter.com/changeenactor/status/101008707592261632 William Cass

    best article on the #londonriots yet: http://t.co/Pen84Bl

  • http://twitter.com/fillsalvste/status/101010798700277760 Salvador Stebbins

    http://t.co/0RWfZPW A crowd psychology analysis of the riots – Left Foot Forward

  • SimonB

    I’d like to see more detail in this analysis, this is very superficial. How have the findings been taken by peers? What are the social factors in these specific areas that have led to this violence? Why hasn’t it happened in areas with similar profiles?

  • http://twitter.com/markdoidge/status/101027999675187200 Mark Doidge

    RT @leftfootfwd: The always excellent Clifford Stott with a crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/vJScXAm

  • Steve

    Unfortunately the article does sound like waffle. What specific proactive interventions do you suggest?
    The fact is, almost everything is made in China these days, hence very little manufacturing here. Jobs are scarce, times are hard and there is little that any govt. can do about it. A government can only borrow and then print so much extra money “quantitative easing” before we end up in a complete spiral. Unfortunately these thieves have chosen the temporary easy route to material satisfaction. My own view is that perhaps we should try the brutal approach. Its not nice at the time, but for the sake of innocent people I think it may be necessary. After that we have to seriously think how to educate our own citizens before they get this bad. A cancer requires serious treatment to save the rest of the body.

  • http://twitter.com/holah/status/101068590945546240 holah

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/jzHLO2t

  • Leon Wolfson

    Anon E Mouse – You’re right, there’s no comparison. Most of the rioters deserve a few years in jail. Most of the bankers deserve a few decades or more. Except, one side’s rich, so you won’t ConDemn them.

    There IS trouble around here. I don’t condone the actions taken by individuals. But the best way to STOP the trouble, rather than temporarily putting it on the back burner, is to deal with the issues behind it.

    SimonB – It takes a spark. It’s so, so important NOT to light that spark. There are other tinderboxes out there, no doubt…

  • Anon E Mouse

    Leon Wolfson – I would have charged and jailed the bankers like they do in the States.

    Instead the Labour Party rewarded the bankers, city slickers and spivs like no UK government in history.

    The issues do not interest me. Left wing, politically correct psycho babble does not stop people having their whole lives destroyed.

    If you wish to live in a society where bad behaviour is excused then may I suggest you head to Hackney to speak to a woman and family who now live in the community centre because their flat was burned down this week.

    Perhaps you should explain your “tinderbox” theories and see how she feels. My guess is she will feel like the rest of decent normal people who just want to go about their lives not living in fear from feral criminals and thugs that roam unimpeded in our streets.

    You have a right to your opinion Wolfy Boy and even though you think the “root causes” are more important to address than families having their whole lives destroyed by morons who have free schooling, housing and money and then respond with violence because they are “disaffected” that’s up to you.

    I would have thought though since you yourself have been a victim who has been shot at, bombed and ambushed by a marauding gang (twice) you would have had some sympathy for the victims here….

  • http://twitter.com/floramatos/status/101206506590052352 floramatos

    Psychologist Clifford Stott on the riots http://ow.ly/5YDff

  • http://twitter.com/jamiedavies/status/101209406770921473 Jamie

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/jzHLO2t

  • http://twitter.com/phs/status/101231184171896832 Philipp Sonderegger

    Crowd-Psychologist on: for looters their behaviour is meaningfull. http://j.mp/r0XcR4

  • http://twitter.com/mjhpsycho/status/101249379347865600 Marion Hubbard

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/jzHLO2t

  • http://twitter.com/el_konstantinou/status/101249513586556928 Elina Konstantinou

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots – http://t.co/N303wYs

  • http://twitter.com/psychiatry_jc/status/101263053139611648 Psychiatry_JC

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots . http://bit.ly/rrPlct

  • http://twitter.com/neurology_jc/status/101263055236767745 Neurology_JC

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots . http://bit.ly/rrPlct

  • King of Frogs

    Anon E Mouse – what a superb example of someone Not Getting the Point! No one, I repeat, no one here is trying to make excuses for the actions of the rioters nor is anyone forgetting about the victims here, some of whom, as you say, have been rendered homeless by the rioting. What this article is about, and the point you seem to be completely missing, is that to prevent this happening again, we need to understand why it happened at all – and if there’s one thing which wont help us to prevent us understanding and controlling such events is knee-jerk vitriol-spitting about how horrible it all is.

    Yes, of course its horrible, of course it needs to be stopped, of course damage has to be redressed, no one’s disagreeing with you there, you’re preaching to the choir. The importance of the kind of research Dr Scott does lies in its ability to *explain* the actions of riots and *understand* what leads to them. These things don’t just happen, events have causes.

    If it was just a bunch of selfish lazy “bad people” as you would have it, then why don’t these things happen all the time? There have been ample opportunities for rioting over the past 12 months, with all the demonstrations going on – why not then, why now? If you are so convinced that the rioters are just selfish, feckless, nasty people, then I challenge you to prove it – and no their actions as a crowd do not count as proof, many actions can have many causes, and just because something seems right in your gut doesn’t make it so. This is where science comes in, to figure out what causes are involved and what ones aren’t, without relying on intuition.

    These questions need to be answered, and the process of answering them is not in any way aplogising for the actions of rioters and is certainly not in any way showing a lack of sympathy for the victims of these events, its just trying to look at them objectively and work out ways to prevent them in the future. If you don’t have the strength of character to look at these things scientifically, then maybe you shouldn’t be commenting on them.

  • Anon2

    Anon E Mouse — To explain is not to excuse. Finding the causes of harm is necessary for manipulating them in order to reduce the likelihood of future harm. Sure, punish the wrongdoers, but don’t think that’s going to prevent this from happening again.

  • Ellie B

    “It is highly relevant that in the context of these riots people have taken the emerging opportunity to target shops selling high-end electrical goods, clothes and jewelry.

    In this age of austerity, such items are becoming increasingly unobtainable to ever-larger sections of the working class …”

    Of course bright, shiny things are a temptation – but these items are increasingly unobtainable for people across the whole social spectrum. This is not a class issue. There are many, many people who are struggling to make ends meet. Many people are angry. Many are frightened about their future prospects. Most are not violent; most are not looters. Common sense says that the roots of the violence lie in over-crowded classrooms, where kids get inadequate schooling and little personal attention (unless they misbehave). Many will have received poor parenting. Our modern culture does not seek to give its young people a code of conduct for decent living. Our kids are exposed to violent images and a glamorisation of lawlessness and immoral behaviour every day of their young lives(via TV soaps, computer games, violent movies – and often on the streets of their own communities). Their role models, in music, sport, the media are often self-seeking too. The majority of these kids are inarticulate and likely to be stuck within their cycle of disadvantage. Self-esteem for many comes not from personal achievement but from seeing themselves on (anti-)social media sites. Testosterone filled young men have always been thrill seekers ready to take a risk. As long as we continue to perpetuate a culture where ‘anything goes’ and where immorality and violence are glamorised, and where automation and computerisation are taking the place of community, discourse and human contact – this kind of behaviour will continue. These young people need to learn skills, crafts and professions that will give them a sense of belonging to a different strata of community; that will sustain them for the future – not land them in jail. It will take commitment, dialogue and a lot of hard work. I am not condoning what has happened – but these kids need help to recognise that they are individuals, not victims (of society). If they are so easily led, then so help us all in the future.

  • Ed’s Talking Balls

    ‘In this age of austerity, such items are becoming increasingly unobtainable to ever-larger sections of the working class and it should not be surprising that some are using the riots as an opportunity to obtain them.’

    The working classes may well struggle to buy some of these luxury items. That is the nature of our society: some people can afford things others can’t. The solution isn’t to take the immature and utterly outrageous attitude that, somehow, you are entitled to something simply because others have it and that you will stop at nothing to get your greedy mitts on said item.

    You want a plasma TV? Work for it and save up. That’s what the rest of us do.

    And no matter how hard most of us work, we’ll never be able to afford a house like Bill Gates. Does that mean we have a right to rob him? No. The middle classes can’t afford yachts and Caribbean islands and I’m sure many of us desire such things. This is the real world, not some fairytale (a point made excruciatingly clear due to the actions of selfish individuals who make others’ lives harder than they already were).

    Grow up. Life’s unfair. Those of us who were brought up rather than dragged up had that harsh but important lesson instilled in us from a very young age.

  • Leon Wolfson

    I do, of course. But the duty of government is not to only look to the short term. Unless they take appropriate action – which does NOT mean punishing the poor – and in short order, this will happen again.

    It’s no theory, sadly, but backed by evidence from dozens of countries civil unrest. You’ll just blame the poor and call for more crackdowns every time though, a typically monomaniac response, devoid of leadership.

    Oh, and the Tories called for less bank regulation. So you have no grounds to stand on, as usual.

  • http://twitter.com/khephir/status/101366513709228032 Khephra Maley

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots – http://j.mp/pSNKWt [ #uk #news #sociology #anthropos ]

  • http://twitter.com/megustaserval/status/101459027183153152 vaL Aguirre

    Una pequeña nota de la psicología de masas respecto a las protestas en Londres: http://t.co/osTBeu6

  • Anon E Mouse

    Ed’s Talking Balls – The problem is the Labour Party was only elected by Middle England whilst Tony Blair was leader and because they have lost Scotland to the SNP they are now desperate for votes.

    Realising that the working classes would sooner vote for a monkey than the current Labour MP’s they are stuck and so have to start trawling for supporters amongst the real underclass.

    Labour will always have zombies like Leon Wolfson – literate but not clever but they won’t win elections for them – there just isn’t enough of his type available so off they go looking for votes.

    This rioting has occurred because Labour has pandered to the underclass and tries to convince them that they have rights to things and that they are victims. Social Workers now have “Service Users” and we now have a “Police Service” and not a “Force”. It is small wonder with the message Labour has sent out for the last decade that these feral criminals behave like this.

    If people are poor then they cannot afford things that people who are not poor have. In the old days when Labour represented the Working Classes they would have encouraged people to get jobs, night school whatever, to better themselves but now they just bribe them to stay workless.

    And to do the jobs these people should be doing they import foreigners which is straight forwardly racist to me. To have a foreigner cleaning the streets or flipping burgers to pay taxes to allow Brits to sit on their arses doing nothing and getting bored is madness.

    Labour needs to reboot the party ASAP. It needs a complete rethink but under the current leadership there is no way it will happen.

    Labour needs more Frank Fields and Charles Clarkes and less lying supporters like matthew fox and Leon Wolfson – those excuse merchants just put people off…

  • http://twitter.com/sophiacr/status/101671384408784896 Sophia Coles-Riley

    A crowd psychology analysis of the #ukriots http://t.co/lFMqJtE

  • http://twitter.com/tiredlegs/status/101674433361608704 Ceri

    A crowd psychology analysis of the #ukriots http://t.co/lFMqJtE

  • http://twitter.com/richardson_tm/status/101681722504118272 Tom Richardson

    The excellent Clifford Stott on crowd psychology in the #londonriots #ukriots: http://t.co/SOOTjwV

  • http://twitter.com/scaf_faulding/status/101744123484192769 rich faulding

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://zite.to/qa2q4F ALL behaviour has meaning.

  • http://twitter.com/sospot/status/101752847883968512 Sophie Ballinger

    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://zite.to/qa2q4F ALL behaviour has meaning.

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    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://zite.to/qa2q4F ALL behaviour has meaning.

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    A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://zite.to/qa2q4F ALL behaviour has meaning.

  • http://twitter.com/_garrilla/status/101757027025551360 Garry Ladd

    RT @leftfootfwd: A crowd psychology analysis of the riots http://t.co/5pvS9hz

  • John Green

    Clifford,

    There is a lot of muddled thinking in your article.

    Vicious rioting by mobs intent on creating havoc and destruction is bound to provoke vitriolic debate. I feel very vitriolic.

    Unfortunately our society is not “under attack from outsiders hell bent on ‘mindless criminality’”. This series of attacks came from the layer of scum that floats on the surface of our society. The riots were classically copycat in nature. What was witnessed in Tottenham on the first night appealed to scum in other areas who fancied some of the same action. There was nothing “irrational” in this. It was obvious to anyone with a television that the police could not cope and were standing back from intervening. While some pieces of scum were invited by Blackberry messages to participant, the majority saw their opportunity and jumped on their bikes.

    There is nothing surprising or significant in the fact that looting mobs go for merchandise with the highest value. It is ever thus. They would be stupid not to.

    One aspect of the riots that has disturbed many people is the vicious vindictiveness of those pieces of scum who, having broken into commercial properties and stolen what they lusted after, then ransacked the property and set it alight. They did this because they could and because, to them, it was fun. They wanted to get some “free stuff” as many admitted on camera. They were not “smashing up their own communities”. This scum has no community allegiance except in the context of gangland territorial feuds.

    The meaning behind these riots and the contextual issues are as follows:
    A) these rioters are the spawn, by and large, of useless parents
    B) many have refused to benefit from our educational system and have therefore rendered themselves unemployable
    C) they have no respect for any aspect of society
    D) they have a keen knowledge of their “rights” and a complete ignorance of their obligations and duties
    E) they have an obsession with, and an overwhelming sense of envy for, fame, celebrity, bling and personal possessions
    F) most have a belief in a lifestyle built around dropping out of school at an early age and claiming benefits for life, supplimented by crime and often drug-dealing

    This is how they earn the sobriquet “scum”.

    The “proactive intervention” that you are seeking is taking place at this moment. The very good news is that in excess of 1,600 pieces of scum have been arrested so far. More than half of these have appeared in court and been sentenced or referred to a county court. Some have begun prison sentences and the first evictions from social housing are taking place in Labour boroughs in Wandsworth, Liverpool and Manchester. Convicted students are being thrown out of college and hopefully some of this scum will lose their employment. We can only hope that the rest of the thick layer of scum floating on the surface of our society will take note.

    Clifford, please put a little more constructive thought into your future articles.

  • Jim Thomerson

    In the 1960s, in the US Army National Guard, I received riot control training on two occasions in two different Divisions. Basic idea is that you go in in formation and hold formation. It is not individual against individual, but formation against individuals. The purpose is to break up the mob into smaller and smaller groups. The rioters are your friends and neighbors who are temporarily insane. Get them into small groups and they regain their sanity and go home. Perhaps this is the naivety of the ’60s but fortunately I did not have to put it into action.

  • Ano Ny Xterminator

    @ the mouse
    It is indeed a shame all these kids are looting while they should in fact be primarily concerned with guillotineing all corporacratic right-wing basterds first and foremost.

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