Time to step forward on the Spartacus report

The Department of Work and Pensions statistics give the overall fraud rate for Disability Living Allowance as being less than 0.5 per cent.

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Doesn’t include the state committing fraud does it?

ie. Moving people from unemployment to DLA/ICB.

Why has the number of disabled people risen from 1 million to 2.5 million?

Is the NHS damaging people’s health? Could be. They contribute to the deaths or kill 20-80,000 a year (NHS’s own estimate).

Work place disability? Unlikely. Or is it that the ‘Elf and Safety is doing people in.

Increased participation by women in the workforce, meaning they can claim. In part yes, but still not enough to explain an extra 1.5 million.

That leaves the obvious. Government is allowing extra people to claim the benefit because it was politically expedient.

Any other evidence for this?

Yes. The assessment process reveals that large numbers have decided the game is up, and aren’t claiming.

Queue the standard response. 40% of appeals are successful. Barmy logic then says, that must be representative of all claimants – not. It’s only the people who are border line who will appeal, and aren’t representative of all claimants.

“ie. Moving people from unemployment to DLA”-dear me NOT an out of allowance also paid to children and just shy of one million pensioners(the” work shy scroungers”)

“ie. Moving people from unemployment to DLA”-dear me NOT an out of allowance also paid to children and just shy of one million pensioners(the” work shy scroungers”)

Lord blagger – you have revealed the general ignorance which has sunk into the those who cannot think for themselves but are indoctrinated by inaccurate media spin.

How many more times do disabled people have to say this for it to sink in? DLA is NOT an out of work benefit. So your hypothesis that the government is moving people from “Unemployment Benefit” to DLA is obviously incorrect. Nor is it means tested. It can be claimed by millonaires. Ask David Cameron – he claimed it for his son. He now seeks to deny it to those who do not have his millions to fall back on to pay for their carers/wheelchairs/heating/travel to hospital appointments/meals on wheels etc.

Your lack of informed opinion is shown by your reference to unemployment benefit and IB. Neither exist anymore.

In fact the process is working the other way. Sick and disabled people are being forced of Employment and Support Allowance by computerised, privatised, faked medical assessments, onto Jobseekers Allowance. 31 people have died so far awaiting appeals for medical that found them “fit” to work. At least 16 people have committed suicide, after being found wrongly “fit” for work.

Do at least try and read the report “Responsible Reform”. Very ill people have put a lot of time and effort and fundraising into writing and publishing the real responses to the government’s DLA consultation process. Contrary to the government’s claims that most consultees were in support of abolishing DLA and changing to PIP, you will find the majority were actually opposed – including Boris Johnson and many major charities. You will also find the real information about the benefit, who receives it and why. You will also find the figures used by the government to claim the numbers have dramatically risen are false.

Read the truth or promulgate the myths. Or do you not mind a democracy where misinformation is put into the public realm to give you your opinions, so you don’t have to think for yourself?

If you were diagnosed with cancer, would you like to be subjected to an assessment to see if you were REALLY ill and then have any ESA stopped after one year after paying National Insurance for 30 years? Would you like to have to wait 6 months after a serious illness or accident before you would even become eligible to claim the new PIP? How would you, your mother, brother or child survive?

Lord blagger – you have revealed the general ignorance which has sunk into the those who cannot think for themselves but are indoctrinated by inaccurate media spin.

How many more times do disabled people have to say this for it to sink in? DLA is NOT an out of work benefit. So your hypothesis that the government is moving people from “Unemployment Benefit” to DLA is obviously incorrect. Nor is it means tested. It can be claimed by millonaires. Ask David Cameron – he claimed it for his son. He now seeks to deny it to those who do not have his millions to fall back on to pay for their carers/wheelchairs/heating/travel to hospital appointments/meals on wheels etc.

Your lack of informed opinion is shown by your reference to unemployment benefit and IB. Neither exist anymore.

In fact the process is working the other way. Sick and disabled people are being forced of Employment and Support Allowance by computerised, privatised, faked medical assessments, onto Jobseekers Allowance. 31 people have died so far awaiting appeals for medical that found them “fit” to work. At least 16 people have committed suicide, after being found wrongly “fit” for work.

Do at least try and read the report “Responsible Reform”. Very ill people have put a lot of time and effort and fundraising into writing and publishing the real responses to the government’s DLA consultation process. Contrary to the government’s claims that most consultees were in support of abolishing DLA and changing to PIP, you will find the majority were actually opposed – including Boris Johnson and many major charities. You will also find the real information about the benefit, who receives it and why. You will also find the figures used by the government to claim the numbers have dramatically risen are false.

Read the truth or promulgate the myths. Or do you not mind a democracy where misinformation is put into the public realm to give you your opinions, so you don’t have to think for yourself?

If you were diagnosed with cancer, would you like to be subjected to an assessment to see if you were REALLY ill and then have any ESA stopped after one year after paying National Insurance for 30 years? Would you like to have to wait 6 months after a serious illness or accident before you would even become eligible to claim the new PIP? How would you, your mother, brother or child survive?

Link to pdf of full #spartacusreport in this article http://t.co/HwLvSnlM Government basically ignoring the responses to every question

Moving people to DLA, the vast majority of people on DLA are in work, and DLA is mostly paid to people who work, notice work, you do not get placed onto DLA you apply for it and you can be in work.

Now then putting people onto ESA is very difficult now with the WCA .

But hell I do not trust any party now will not be to long before we have holiday camps with work pays on the gates.

Moving people to DLA, the vast majority of people on DLA are in work, and DLA is mostly paid to people who work, notice work, you do not get placed onto DLA you apply for it and you can be in work.

Now then putting people onto ESA is very difficult now with the WCA .

But hell I do not trust any party now will not be to long before we have holiday camps with work pays on the gates.

Ah yes – the socialist solution. They were the ones with the camps.

A bit like all those MPS with there ‘work experience’ that pays nothing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7995652.stm

Mr Brown said a promise to bring in compulsory community service would be a part of his next election manifesto

Arbeit macht frei – Labour policy isn’t it?

We already have compulsion and taxation using force. No different from the mafia and their extortion racket.

Why, as an example, cannot taxpayers go on strike witholding money used for illegal wars?

Workers can strike against employers, so should the taxpayer.

Ah yes – the socialist solution. They were the ones with the camps.

A bit like all those MPS with there ‘work experience’ that pays nothing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7995652.stm

Mr Brown said a promise to bring in compulsory community service would be a part of his next election manifesto

Arbeit macht frei – Labour policy isn’t it?

We already have compulsion and taxation using force. No different from the mafia and their extortion racket.

Why, as an example, cannot taxpayers go on strike witholding money used for illegal wars?

Workers can strike against employers, so should the taxpayer.

I support the #spartacusreport – will you? http://t.co/yD4bV6Dr #disability <Please RT! (thanks @queerpup for link!)

Govt wants to cut benefits to the disabled, while committing to cut top rate tax. Inhuman. http://t.co/KoYJMpYe #spartacusreport #plutocracy

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[...] The Spartacus Report exposed how the government has ignored disabled people’s criticism of their welfare reform plans. There is an opportunity to reform these benefits without causing such anxiety and distress. Government should act upon the concerns of disabled people to spot where improvements could be made. [...]

Whatever the simple divisions Cam thinks he can make on ESA, on the ground ppl are terrified #spartacus #pmqs http://t.co/zu6KSC2R

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Whatever the simple divisions Cam thinks he can make on ESA, on the ground ppl are terrified #spartacus #pmqs http://t.co/zu6KSC2R

Whatever the simple divisions Cam thinks he can make on ESA, on the ground ppl are terrified #spartacus #pmqs http://t.co/zu6KSC2R