Once again on Labour’s ‘out of control’ spending

Some things are worth repeating because they are that important and some things should be repeated because they were not heard, or listened to, the first time. Some fall under both categories.

Some things are worth repeating because they are that important and some things should be repeated because they were not heard, or listened to, the first time.

Some things fall under both categories.

It is testament to a failure in communication on the left that in the years immediately after the financial crisis the consensus was allowed to form that under Labour spending got out of control. The hangover from this communication failure persists in the public’s continued reluctance to trust Labour on the economy.

It is seemingly forgotten now, but the Tories promised to match Labour’s spending plans right up until 2008; in the aftermath of the 2010 election, however, a drawn-out Labour leadership contest allowed David Cameron to define the post-crisis landscape as the hangover of a spendthrift Labour Party.

The country was in a mess and the only ones who could clear that mess up were the Conservatives, who would reign in the excesses of the Blair and Brown years and bring some temperance to proceedings.

It is worth repeating, then, something pointed out by Martin Wolf in today’s Financial Times (£): in the years leading up to the 2007/08 financial crisis – the supposedly out of control, spendthrift years – UK net public debt was close to its lowest ratio to GDP in the past 300 years.

As the graph below shows, government debt as a percentage of GDP was well below average under Labour and rose, predictably, as a response to the collapse in GDP – as it would. And why does this matter? Because the relevance of the amount of money spent by government is related to how big a proportion of GDP it is, not how much is spent in total.

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While debt is now higher than it has been for a considerable period of time, the blatant dishonesty in the claim that spending was out of control under Labour has more to do with finding a rationale for stripping back the state than it does with dealing with any perceived ‘debt crisis’.

60 Responses to “Once again on Labour’s ‘out of control’ spending”

  1. Arthur

    The average deficit to GDP under Thatcher and Major was also nearly double what it was under Blair and Brown up to the point of the Credit Crunch!

  2. OldLb

    Lies.

    Where’s the pension debts?

    Where’s the money you owe civil servants for their pensions?

    Where’s the money you owe me for the state pension?

    Where’s the money for the state second pension?

    Where’s the PFI and why isn’t that listed?

    Where’s nuclear decommissioning?

    Where’s the Post Office pension?

    All debts according to GAAP and FRS17/19, the accounting standards.

    Under Labour, 2005-2010, the pensions debt went up by 736 billion a year.

    Why use GDP why not use taxes?

    Ah yes, yet another lie to make it look affordable.

  3. OldLb

    Why use GDP? Why not tax revenue?

    Ah yes, make the deficit expressed as a ratio smaller.

  4. Mason Dixon Autistic

    If you’re going to keep playing silly buggers by including future debts, shouldn’t you factor in future income to off-set them?

  5. Mason Dixon Autistic

    For the same reason a payday loan is not as big a deal to someone with a high income as it is to someone with a low income. The purpose is clarity.

    The only reason supposed ‘fiscal hawks’ prefer to ignore the GDP ratio in favour of flat numbers is because the purpose is distortion.

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